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Post by nautonnier on May 16, 2015 9:42:52 GMT
Germany already has "gambled away its prosperity". Although I think it was deliberate in a Holdren sense. The cost of electricity in Germany is startling. 800,000 families are living off grid as they cannot afford the electricity. Companies cannot instantly move and there is a significant inertia for companies that are German household names, but I have read that industry is now leaving Germany at an increasing rate. As with the US the 'headquarters' will remain producing nothing, but the employment and with it the GDP wealth creation will be in India or China. The EU and the Eurozone countries are on the skids they appear to be beating the US in the race to the bottom. For that we have to 'thank' the natural gas and fracking on private lands, had the politicians anything to do with it the USA would already have crashed.
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Post by nautonnier on May 31, 2015 17:28:57 GMT
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Post by acidohm on May 31, 2015 17:33:46 GMT
The Government also announced in the Queen’s Speech last week that it would bring forward legislation to give local communities “the final say” by ensuring large wind farm projects are decided at local rather than national level. So the nimbys make sure nothing happens now!!!
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 21, 2015 3:59:57 GMT
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Post by tobyglyn on Aug 22, 2015 0:58:18 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 23, 2015 21:17:34 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 23, 2015 21:27:26 GMT
I envisage a rapid 'redefinition' of renewable energy. Base-load and dispatchable power are not available from renewables, unless unlike other green groups they include hydroelectric power. The developed world is going to be in a serious energy supply situation in a few years time. All the proponents of this approach should be only allowed to use 'renewable' generated electricity at home and in their offices. It might concentrate what passes for their minds.
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Post by tobyglyn on Aug 25, 2015 8:01:50 GMT
I envisage a rapid 'redefinition' of renewable energy. Base-load and dispatchable power are not available from renewables, unless unlike other green groups they include hydroelectric power. The developed world is going to be in a serious energy supply situation in a few years time. All the proponents of this approach should be only allowed to use 'renewable' generated electricity at home and in their offices. It might concentrate what passes for their minds. They'll have to be using the Snowy Mountain hydro or else will, as you say, create a redefinition of renewable energy. It is interesting that some suburbs of Canberra have already banned wood fires for heating as they have been creating too much pollution in the area www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/wood-heaters-banned-in-new-canberra-suburb-20120709-21rk1.html
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 25, 2015 14:48:51 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Aug 25, 2015 15:45:42 GMT
"They [windturbines] produce less energy before they break down than the energy it took to make them." Nice! I heard it said that people with greatest job satisfaction in the US are those who work in demolition....maybe time for a relocation and job change!!!
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 27, 2015 17:33:56 GMT
"They [windturbines] produce less energy before they break down than the energy it took to make them." Nice! I heard it said that people with greatest job satisfaction in the US are those who work in demolition....maybe time for a relocation and job change!!! Problem is that you would have nobody to pay you. There seems to be a problem when a subsidy farm goes bankrupt, there is nobody to foot the bill to make good the ground full of rotting stumps. This becomes even more serious for offshore subsidy farms where the rotting stumps of wind mills will be navigation hazards for centuries. Politicians laundered money to their supporters through these subsidy farms with no thought to the real world effect of ending subsidies after the elections. If ever sensible government returns landowners with non-functional wind mills on their land should be charged for their removal.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 27, 2015 19:23:56 GMT
"They [windturbines] produce less energy before they break down than the energy it took to make them." Nice! I heard it said that people with greatest job satisfaction in the US are those who work in demolition....maybe time for a relocation and job change!!! Problem is that you would have nobody to pay you. There seems to be a problem when a subsidy farm goes bankrupt, there is nobody to foot the bill to make good the ground full of rotting stumps. This becomes even more serious for offshore subsidy farms where the rotting stumps of wind mills will be navigation hazards for centuries. Politicians laundered money to their supporters through these subsidy farms with no thought to the real world effect of ending subsidies after the elections. If ever sensible government returns landowners with non-functional wind mills on their land should be charged for their removal. The archaeologists of some future alien race will ponder on their cultural significance!
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Post by nonentropic on Aug 27, 2015 19:38:33 GMT
As with most remains of fallen civilizations it is religious relics that survive.
It gives a bit of an insight into how the last days of the Roman empire operated. "Great leaders" debating false problems and diverting by edict resources away from the source of the wealth.
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Aug 27, 2015 19:41:02 GMT
Problem is that you would have nobody to pay you. There seems to be a problem when a subsidy farm goes bankrupt, there is nobody to foot the bill to make good the ground full of rotting stumps. This becomes even more serious for offshore subsidy farms where the rotting stumps of wind mills will be navigation hazards for centuries. Politicians laundered money to their supporters through these subsidy farms with no thought to the real world effect of ending subsidies after the elections. If ever sensible government returns landowners with non-functional wind mills on their land should be charged for their removal. The archaeologists of some future alien race will ponder on their cultural significance! Given the penchant of archaeologists to find religious significance in everything, they will no doubt be seen by future generations as huge temples of a fallen civilization to the gods of the sun and the wind. And they will be right for once.
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 27, 2015 21:00:39 GMT
As with most remains of fallen civilizations it is religious relics that survive. It gives a bit of an insight into how the last days of the Roman empire operated. "Great leaders" debating false problems and diverting by edict resources away from the source of the wealth. Strange you should mention the Roman Empire - the fall of Rome was assisted by huge influxes of foreign migrants. Not sure that they managed to create subsidy farms, but they had lots of circuses.
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