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Post by Ratty on Dec 24, 2019 6:40:13 GMT
What happens if it doesn't rain for 30 years? That has happened in the past. Then Ratty will be the newest immigrant to Missouri that speaks English. Sort of. Are you a sanctuary cityhome?
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 24, 2019 7:25:18 GMT
Then Ratty will be the newest immigrant to Missouri that speaks English. Sort of. Are you a sanctuary cityhome? I have labor housing.
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Post by Ratty on Dec 24, 2019 8:05:15 GMT
Are you a sanctuary cityhome? I have labor housing. No good to me, Sig .... I'm a conservative. Thanks anyway.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 24, 2019 8:50:41 GMT
Then Ratty will be the newest immigrant to Missouri that speaks English. Sort of. Are you a sanctuary cityhome? Yes, we have a sanctuary ... complete with cross. Hammer and nails if you ask.
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 30, 2019 12:31:20 GMT
An update to quell the thread drift
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Post by Ratty on Dec 30, 2019 12:43:52 GMT
It wasn't drift Naut. It was careening. So, what happened to the Newfoundland hot blob?
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 30, 2019 13:34:16 GMT
It wasn't drift Naut. It was careening. So, what happened to the Newfoundland hot blob? Looks like the Labrador current overcame that.
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 3, 2020 10:41:05 GMT
"Unsettled: Scientists Find Ocean Heat Change Rate And Earth’s Energy Imbalance In DECLINE Since 2000 By Kenneth Richard on 2. January 2020
According to a new paper, the Earth’s ocean heat content time derivative (OHCTD) has been decreasing (-0.26 W/m²/decade) since 2000, coinciding with a similar deficit in the Earth’s energy imbalance (EEI). The authors acknowledge such trends are “surprising” considering greenhouse gas emissions have risen...............""..........Cooling must be corrected to show warming Of course, a cooling ocean does not conform with climate models predicating ocean heat content should rise in tandem with CO2 emissions. So the overseers of ocean heat content datasets set out to find a way to “correct” the data. Sure enough, by 2007, NASA’s Josh Willis had discovered two biases that could explain the cooling. The OHC data could now be changed to show warming. Josh Willis’s correcting-the-cooling feat was even featured in a NASA article blithely titled “Correcting Ocean Cooling” that same year."Much more at:> notrickszone.com/2020/01/02/unsettled-scientists-find-ocean-heat-content-and-earths-energy-imbalance-in-decline-since-2000/
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Post by Ratty on Jan 3, 2020 13:37:32 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 3, 2020 20:10:13 GMT
The actual article is here: www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/11/6/663/htmHelps to evaluate what the underlying data and metrics actually are. Important as these trends run somewhat counter to lower troposphere satellite data. There may be good reasons for that.
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 3, 2020 20:23:28 GMT
The actual article is here: www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/11/6/663/htmHelps to evaluate what the underlying data and metrics actually are. Important as these trends run somewhat counter to lower troposphere satellite data. There may be good reasons for that. Indeed there is more than one paper "Abstract Decadal changes of the Reflected Solar Radiation (RSR) as measured by CERES from 2000 to 2018 are analysed. For both polar regions, changes of the clear-sky RSR correlate well with changes of the Sea Ice Extent. In the Arctic, sea ice is clearly melting, and as a result the earth is becoming darker under clear-sky conditions. However, the correlation between the global all-sky RSR and the polar clear-sky RSR changes is low. Moreover, the RSR and the Outgoing Longwave Radiation (OLR) changes are negatively correlated, so they partly cancel each other. The increase of the OLR is higher then the decrease of the RSR. Also the incoming solar radiation is decreasing. As a result, over the 2000–2018 period the Earth Energy Imbalance (EEI) appears to have a downward trend of −0.16 ± 0.11 W/m2dec. The EEI trend agrees with a trend of the Ocean Heat Content Time Derivative of −0.26 ± 0.06 (1 σ ) W/m2dec"see doi.org/10.3390/rs11060663
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Post by Ratty on Jan 3, 2020 22:37:33 GMT
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Post by nonentropic on Jan 3, 2020 22:44:22 GMT
I struggle with the thermal quanta required to warm a large ocean or even just a thinish skin on the surface.
its not that difficult to see that a volcano that does not heat the atmosphere so is unlikely to heat an ocean with very much more heat capacity.
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Post by acidohm on Jan 4, 2020 18:06:52 GMT
I struggle with the thermal quanta required to warm a large ocean or even just a thinish skin on the surface. its not that difficult to see that a volcano that does not heat the atmosphere so is unlikely to heat an ocean with very much more heat capacity. So, would an increase in downwelling IR be detectable near a volcano if CO2 has anything to do with it? 🤔
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Post by nonentropic on Jan 4, 2020 18:34:45 GMT
The anomalies are really an artifact of wind direction in that case persistent northerlies have drive warm tropical waters south.
They cool but not as fast as the thermal gradient up the globe.
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