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Post by goldbuster1 on May 7, 2010 16:45:21 GMT
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Post by hunter on May 8, 2010 3:58:37 GMT
Tell us more about the weight distribution, please.
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Post by scpg02 on May 8, 2010 4:19:09 GMT
Tell us more about the weight distribution, please. You knew I had one.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 9, 2010 12:56:01 GMT
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Post by stranger on May 10, 2010 1:19:08 GMT
Gold, have you ever seriously considered the ancient solstice calendars? The stone constructs that accurately indicate the winter and summer solstices? Some in South Africa are over 30,000 years old, Stonehenge is relatively new at 4500 years of age, some in central Asia may be 50,000 years old, and the "Medicine Wheel" is probably 500 years old. Each and every one of them still do what they were made to do. To indicate the solstices on solstice morning - only.
It is very difficult to see how any shift in the Earth's orbit, no matter how small, could have occurred without destroying the ability of these ancient period markers to determine the solstices. Either you wind up with a broadened indication of the solstices, or none at all.
To make matters worse for that line of argument, there are many ancient astronomical observing positions that are NOT solstice markers. If you want to say the Earth's orbit is changing, you will have to explain why the Sirius shaft in the Great Pyramid still operates as intended, even after nearly 5,000 years.
Stranger
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Post by nautonnier on May 10, 2010 1:28:40 GMT
Confusion of magnetic poles with geographic and actual rotational poles perhaps
We are in a period where the Earth's magnetism seems to be reducing there are some areas where it is a lot weaker - and some are hypothesizing that in a few years - perhaps a century or two - the Earth's magnetic field may flip as it has apparently in the past. The Earth will continue to rotate around its physical poles - although there may be some interesting magnetic and auroral effects with a reduced or flipping magnetic field.
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Post by throttleup on May 10, 2010 11:30:24 GMT
goldbuster1: "Rounder ellipse will mean no more seasons..."
Earth seasons are caused by the axial tilt.
Unless Al Gore has decreed otherwise...
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Post by poitsplace on May 10, 2010 12:03:38 GMT
I really can't imagine the rest of his knowledge base being remotely correct if he's this wrong on such fundamental concepts.
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Post by hunter on May 10, 2010 12:51:01 GMT
I really can't imagine the rest of his knowledge base being remotely correct if he's this wrong on such fundamental concepts. What is fun is to note how many non-sequitor's he can toss in to one post, in attempt to parody a skeptic. Just enjoy the entertainment.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 11, 2010 1:43:17 GMT
goldbuster1: "Rounder ellipse will mean no more seasons..." Earth seasons are caused by the axial tilt. Unless Al Gore has decreed otherwise... Earth magnetic field tilt produce a repulse-attract magnetic phenomenon with the SUN magnetic field + pole in June - pole in December, Earth is Closer to the Sun in June (Attraction) , and Farther from the Sun in December (Repulsion) Less magnetic exposure (Tilt) means rounder ellipse around the sun, and less extreme seasons. Axial tilt and magnetic tilt is well exposed in the Milankovitch Theory en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cyclesConclusion: It is the magnetic pole racing towards Russia since 1995 that creates Climate changes not CO2
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Post by throttleup on May 11, 2010 13:41:16 GMT
goldbuster1: "Rounder ellipse will mean no more seasons..." Earth seasons are caused by the axial tilt. Unless Al Gore has decreed otherwise... Earth magnetic field tilt produce a repulse-attract magnetic phenomenon with the SUN magnetic field + pole in June - pole in December, Earth is Closer to the Sun in June (Attraction) , and Farther from the Sun in December (Repulsion) Less magnetic exposure (Tilt) means rounder ellipse around the sun, and less extreme seasons. Axial tilt and magnetic tilt is well exposed in the Milankovitch Theory en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cyclesSigh... I love magnetism. My wife has a lot of them on our refrigerator. However, I must try to dissuade you from thinking the earth is closest to the sun in June. It is not. It is closest to the sun in January. It is farthest from the sun in July. Even your wonderful wikipedia will tell you that. This is due to the slightly elliptical nature of earth's orbit. If the earth's orbit were perfectly circular we would have seasons due to the axial tilt of 23.5 degrees. Others on this board who are much smarter than I am can discuss whether or not the Southern Hemisphere summers and winters are more pronounced or extreme than those in the Northern Hemisphere due to the combination of perihelion during their summer and aphelion during the Southern Hemisphere winter. I'm not real smart, but I think it's more of a gravity - Newtonian/celestial mechanics thing.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 11, 2010 14:08:24 GMT
Earth magnetic field tilt produce a repulse-attract magnetic phenomenon with the SUN magnetic field + pole in June - pole in December, Earth is Closer to the Sun in June (Attraction) , and Farther from the Sun in December (Repulsion) Less magnetic exposure (Tilt) means rounder ellipse around the sun, and less extreme seasons. Axial tilt and magnetic tilt is well exposed in the Milankovitch Theory en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cyclesSigh... I love magnetism. My wife has a lot of them on our refrigerator. However, I must try to dissuade you from thinking the earth is closest to the sun in June. It is not. It is closest to the sun in January. It is farthest from the sun in July. Even your wonderful wikipedia will tell you that. This is due to the slightly elliptical nature of earth's orbit. If the earth's orbit were perfectly circular we would have seasons due to the axial tilt of 23.5 degrees. Are you able to think? So if my theory is inverted, that means it is still valid. Repulsion is done in July and attraction is done in Jan So we know that in July the positive pole(Arctic) is tilt towards the sun creating a Repulsion, and in Jan the negative pole (Antarctic) is toward the sun creating an attraction. Having the magnetic poles moving will affect the exposed poles and thus the strength of the Repulsion/Attraction. A rounder ellipse around the sun due to a weak magnetism tilt will affect our climate, Same sun intensity all year round instead of variation due to earth distance from the sun. A Phenomenon called Analemma is the yearly Sun path in our sky, and it is affected by Magnetic tilt and Axial tilt. Any changes with both and the sun angle will varies, thus affecting climate. www.analemma.com/Pages/framesPage.html
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Post by throttleup on May 11, 2010 14:25:34 GMT
goldbuster,
I must admit that your theory (even if inverted) is deep, compelling and has a certain... "attraction."
Do you mind if I ask about your educational or cultural background... where are you from? What kind of work do you do? Do you have any practical experience in astronomy, physics, climatology or related fields?
You certainly do have deep-seated convictions; I grant you that.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 11, 2010 15:04:35 GMT
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Post by dagrump on May 11, 2010 19:47:26 GMT
Uh, goldbuster, you are aware the Sun flips it's mag poles every 11 years (more or less) aren't you? What does that do to your theory? Troll on.
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