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Post by excalibur on Jul 10, 2010 2:07:43 GMT
The environment Laws that the US is going to pass will benefit BP and the petroleum lobby first.
By imposing CO2 capture laws it will enable the petroleum companies to receive carbon credits for the concentrated CO2 it used for extracting %40 more petrol of a depleted well.
Getting paid for extracting free petrol...
It will create a monopoly in the Gulf of mexico. It will ban Cuba from accessing its reserves in the Gulf. It will be too expensive or strictly against the law for new company to start extraction or exploration.
So it is in the interest of BP to lobby the US for the new law...
And they sure are lobbying hard...Ask the Gulf fishermans
Funny how the Green movement is so focus on CO2...
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Post by excalibur on Jul 10, 2010 12:02:17 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_oil_recoveryGas reinjection is presently the most-commonly used approach to enhanced recovery. In addition to the beneficial effect of the pressure, this method sometimes aids recovery by reducing the viscosity of the crude oil as the gas mixes with it. Gases used include CO2, natural gas or nitrogen. Air cannot be used to repressurize the reservoir because the oil will quickly catch on fire. Oil displacement by carbon dioxide injection relies on the phase behaviour of the mixtures of that gas and the crude, which are strongly dependent on reservoir temperature, pressure and crude oil composition. These mechanisms range from oil swelling and viscosity reduction for injection of immiscible fluids (at low pressures) to completely miscible displacement in high-pressure applications. In these applications, more than half and up to two-thirds of the injected CO2 returns with the produced oil and is usually re-injected into the reservoir to minimize operating costs. The remainder is trapped in the oil reservoir by various means. www.enhanceenergy.com/co2_pipeline/index.htmlThe Alberta Carbon Trunk Line (ACTL) will have enormous environmental benefits for Alberta. In the initial phase, the pipeline project will have the same impact as taking 330,000 cars off the road and 2,600,000 cars at full capacity. Besides the environmental benefit for the province, the pipeline will provide Albertans with additional jobs and the incremental royalties and taxes it will generate through enhanced oil recovery. ACTL will be capable of gathering CO2 from several sources in the Alberta’s Industrial Heartland and transporting the CO2 to existing mature oil fields throughout South-Central Alberta. These oilfields will see significant increases in production as CO2 is permanently stored in the reservoir.
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Post by socold on Jul 10, 2010 17:35:54 GMT
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Post by excalibur on Jul 10, 2010 18:27:51 GMT
Now I understand why you and the other CO2 cultists will never let go of your beliefs...
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Post by socold on Jul 11, 2010 0:44:01 GMT
i dont think you do..yet
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Post by excalibur on Jul 11, 2010 1:39:05 GMT
Meet Maurice Strong
Maurice Strong the Guy behind most of the Green movement is a longtime accomplice of the Rockefellers. He owned a petroleum company at 25 and was later director of Petro-Canada.
He got a huge gift from the Saudis.
He is behind the CO2/globalwarming scam and he is now a Director of the Chicago CO2 Exchange.
Now tell me that the petroleum lobby didnt wrote that Obama bill
sovereignty.net/p/sd/strong.html
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Post by socold on Jul 11, 2010 14:21:30 GMT
yeah Maurice Strong, that author of all those physics textbooks that show co2 warms the planet.
Oh wait no he isn't. But as head of the Iluminati and Lizard People he must have forced those physicists to write the physics books that way.
Right?
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Post by icefisher on Jul 11, 2010 16:11:02 GMT
yeah Maurice Strong, that author of all those physics textbooks that show co2 warms the planet. Oh wait no he isn't. But as head of the Iluminati and Lizard People he must have forced those physicists to write the physics books that way. Right? Maurice Strong didn't write the textbooks. . . .those get written through the same system that creation science textbook get introduced, only difference is who gets upset about and who does not.
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Post by excalibur on Jul 11, 2010 23:34:27 GMT
If the CO2 trolls took the time to check my link on Maurice Strong they would discover that He was involve with UN in cherry picking which NGO gets tax payer $.
Of course all the "socold" rush to get some petroleum shares and since then they pollute all the forums with they CO2/GreeHouse Effect non-sense
Socold are you working or you just do trolling that for a living? You seams to have a lot of time on your hand going from a rhetoric to rhetoric...
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Post by socold on Jul 12, 2010 19:11:44 GMT
I work for the Illuminati under a presumed name. I am instructed to repeat what science books say, eg that co2 warms the Earth. It's a devious plan, masterminded by the King of the Lizard People, Maurice Strong.
Find me an atmospheric physics textbook that doesn't say co2 warms the planet.
Your only problem is that the same stuff in atmospheric physics textbooks are widespread across the world. Rather than "textbooks" about creation science which are specific only to the christian US and muslim Turkey fundamentalists.
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Post by excalibur on Jul 12, 2010 20:39:54 GMT
Lizard people are JEWS, yes the Canadian Jewish try to stop the entrance in Canada of David Icke. They claimed that he refert to them when he said Lizard People... Maurice Strong is not a Jew so he cant be of the Lizard race, based on the Jewish Canadian logic. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke@ socold...Books can say whatever you want them to said, what scientist and physicists usually do is they prove using data and fact their new hypothesis. Please socold prove to us that the greenhouse effect exist
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Post by socold on Jul 12, 2010 22:39:09 GMT
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Post by icefisher on Jul 13, 2010 3:55:28 GMT
Your only problem is that the same stuff in atmospheric physics textbooks are widespread across the world. Rather than "textbooks" about creation science which are specific only to the christian US and muslim Turkey fundamentalists. Christian and Muslim fundamentalist text were widespread across the world as little as 50 years ago. This lecture from Michael Crichton pretty much hits the chords I feel seen also having grown up immediately following WWII. wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/09/aliens-cause-global-warming-a-caltech-lecture-by-michael-crichton/#more-21629We can do better and should.
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Post by hairball on Jul 13, 2010 19:36:30 GMT
Socold, You might have missed my response to you accusing me of being alarmist on the Arctic thread. The post was at the end of the page and quickly got swamped by submarines. Here it is again, though I should note that it's much, much worse than I make out since the commitment to 80% GHG reduction was from 1990 levels. If it wasn't for the climategate hero(s) this would be law in my country now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Socold wrote:
"give up 80% of your energy use and die"
ooh alarmist!
Can you prove that figure using direct observations or do you base it on untrustworthy models?Well, the 80% figure might be a bit dodgy, since Ireland has a comparatively large amount of livestock. So culling half the animals in the country and 70% would probably do it. A new statutory obligation to reduce greenhouse emissions by 80 per cent from 1990 levels will form part of the Climate change Bill when it is published early in 2010.My government in its wisdom has decided to squander my money quadrupling wind energy capacity by 2020. January 14th was the coldest day of the year where I am. For 9 hours that day the 1,200MW capacity windmills produced less than 50MW of electricity (graph below). So, presumably, 10 years from now they'd produce 200MW (well, less, since the best sites are already taken). The peak demand this January was 4,950MW. Last week on my telly I witnessed Prof Frank Convery - who's no lightweight on policy decisions - announce "twenty years from now almost everybody in Ireland should be living in a house that is almost zero energy use and zero Carbon emissions." Well, I guess heating oil and gas aren't gonna be part of this brave new country of mine. And log fires will be right out. So it'll be the windmills. A further quadrupling of wind capacity by 2030 would give less than 20% of the current demand in the aforementioned January-type scenario. And require a 30 meter tall 0.5MW windmill for every 300m^2 of land in my country. I can't find Irish or European figures on excess Winter deaths. But England and Wales have some from 2008-2009 when it was a little bit cold: Presumably, this past Winter which was brass-monkeys freezing for 2 months will require them to change the scale of the graph when those figures come out. Again, presumably, anyone in a "near-zero energy and zero Carbon home" would die in short order if their only source of energy cut out due to incompetent fanatics. Maybe that's the whole point? Bizarrely, IPCC noble Jean-Pascal van Ypersele appeared on the same program as the aforementioned professor worried about a European heatwave killing 1,100 people possibly happening every 2 years in some indeterminate future world. He completely forgot to mention that mild Winters would save the lives of an order of magnitude more people. They'd be mostly old people though, so who cares, right? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Being cold blooded; lizard people would be at particular risk. Am I alarmist?
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Post by excalibur on Jul 13, 2010 20:02:14 GMT
The BP oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico is obviously a situation of unprecedented proportions. Even worse is that there is a great deal of evidence to indicate that this event was an engineered conspiracy. Even if one is not convinced of a conspiracy it is at the very least obvious that the U.S. government and the corporate media are not giving the general public a full picture of what's going on. First, a number of powerful players conveniently had the foresight to dump large numbers of BP shares prior to the event which began on April 20th 2010. This saved them from the substantial loss in value of BP shares that occurred after the event. Goldman Sachs sold 44% of its shares in BP just prior to when this disaster began. BP’s CEO Tony Hayward sold a large chunk of his BP shares a few weeks before the spill. Both Wachovia and UBS also sold a large block of their BP shares before the spill. Second, Halliburton which had been responsible for servicing the oil rig involved in this disaster purchased Boots and Coots a company specializing in extinguishing oil well and oil rig fires just days prior to the incident. Halliburton was also involved in conducting a cementing operation on the oil rig just 20 hours before it went up in flames. BP would eventually hire Boots and Coots to work with them on containing the oil spill. Third, Peter Sutherland a member of powerful globalist organizations such as the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group has held high level positions at both Goldman Sachs and BP. It is highly probable that he played a role in Goldman Sachs decision to dump a large chunk of their BP shares prior to the disaster considering he has maintained an affiliation with both institutions. Conveniently the Trilateral Commission's web-site removed his bio page from their web site but it is still available via the Way Back Machine here. There it details his role at both BP and Goldman Sachs. Fourth, this disaster is now conveniently providing the U.S. government and the various powers that be the excuse to revamp energy policy. In particular, it provides the pretext to push ahead draconian cap and trade and carbon tax initiatives. Fifth, on the day of the explosion the Coast Guard initially reported that there was an explosion on the oil rig three hours before it went up in flames. They later retracted the statement claiming that this was due to a computer time-stamp problem and that such an explosion never took place. This is a fairly ridiculous notion considering that accountability of time is taken incredibly seriously in every branch of the U.S. military. It is unlikely that such a mistake was made and more likely that this was merely an attempt to retract truthful information that didn’t fit in with how they intended on framing the official story. Sixth, all attempts to plug the oil gusher have thus far failed. This in of itself isn’t strange but what is strange is that the tactics used to plug the leak have basically been the same ones that failed to stop a much smaller oil leak that occurred in the Gulf of Mexico in 1979. Why would so-called industry experts use the same tactics that failed 31 years ago on a much larger oil gusher? It doesn’t make any sense unless the intention was to prolong the disaster. Surprisingly, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow actually did a half-way decent job covering this aspect of the containment failures in one of her TV segments which can be viewed below. www.roguegovernment.com/Evidence_Indicates_Gulf_of_Mexico_Oil_Disaster_Was_Engineered_And_Prolonged_By_Design/21981/0/13/13/Y/M.html
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