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Post by curiousgeorge on Aug 20, 2010 0:44:11 GMT
The global population is, with few exceptions, moving away from the wide open spaces in favor of the sardine cans we call cities and has been for quite some time. Agenda 21. Yes. Unfortunately, it must be carefully read to understand that it is about total control by governments of their populace, and not just a warm & fuzzy utopian plan for the benefit of all. Most people have never heard of it, and few have read it, let alone understand it.
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Post by scpg02 on Aug 20, 2010 1:31:02 GMT
Yes. Unfortunately, it must be carefully read to understand that it is about total control by governments of their populace, and not just a warm & fuzzy utopian plan for the benefit of all. Most people have never heard of it, and few have read it, let alone understand it. Freedom 21
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Post by curiousgeorge on Aug 20, 2010 1:34:42 GMT
Yes. Unfortunately, it must be carefully read to understand that it is about total control by governments of their populace, and not just a warm & fuzzy utopian plan for the benefit of all. Most people have never heard of it, and few have read it, let alone understand it. Freedom 21Btw, I'm sure there is some technical psychiatric term for whatever this gentleman is afflicted with, but I'm damned if I know what it is. www.countercurrents.org/mcpherson180810.htm
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 20, 2010 1:41:57 GMT
The move toward a monoculture is a recipe for total collapse in any system. The transition from too-big-to-fail to it-has-all-failed can be surprisingly rapid.
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 26, 2010 3:50:18 GMT
Done with wheat harvest. Some fair fields, too many crappy ones. The National Stats Service indicates that ND is going to have an above average crop. The yield results from this area show it won't....and my friends to the western part of the state indicate the crop is not above average there either. Will have to be a reduction in the future on quantity. The quality is very good.
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Post by stranger on Aug 27, 2010 1:12:40 GMT
Well - populations tend to oscillate between the sardine can tight cities to more rural areas and back to cities. Since most cities cannot very well expand any way but up, cities are built, people slowly ways to pack four families into a space intended for one, and when crowding becomes intense, they move to far distant places.
The Gotham exemplified in "Gangs of New York" emptied itself into the vastnesses of Illinois, Iowa, and even further west in the late 1800's. And the midwesterners started piling back into Gotham in the 1980's. Now the tide seems to be turning again.
So immigrants came to the land of hope. Their children and grandchildren grew up in the tenements, and head for the country. After two generations, they return to the cities. Until the crowding becomes intense and the children of the farm raised start yearning for the farm again. As it was in Babylon, so it is in Chicago. Which is close to depopulating itself.
The last paper I read had the city phase at 35 years, the rural phase at 70 years, but I do not think it is quite that neat. But I will have to admit that it fits several family histories I know of.
Stranger
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Post by curiousgeorge on Aug 27, 2010 11:17:18 GMT
Well - populations tend to oscillate between the sardine can tight cities to more rural areas and back to cities. Since most cities cannot very well expand any way but up, cities are built, people slowly ways to pack four families into a space intended for one, and when crowding becomes intense, they move to far distant places. The Gotham exemplified in "Gangs of New York" emptied itself into the vastnesses of Illinois, Iowa, and even further west in the late 1800's. And the midwesterners started piling back into Gotham in the 1980's. Now the tide seems to be turning again. So immigrants came to the land of hope. Their children and grandchildren grew up in the tenements, and head for the country. After two generations, they return to the cities. Until the crowding becomes intense and the children of the farm raised start yearning for the farm again. As it was in Babylon, so it is in Chicago. Which is close to depopulating itself. The last paper I read had the city phase at 35 years, the rural phase at 70 years, but I do not think it is quite that neat. But I will have to admit that it fits several family histories I know of. Stranger I think you are likely correct regarding the cycle. I suspect there are many drivers, but that it is "conditions" based rather than temporal. It would be interesting to explore this in more depth. Just off the top, it strikes me as similar to animal migrations which, on the surface , appear to be temporal ( seasonal ), but are actually driven by conditions ( food availability, overcrowding, security from predation, etc. ). In the case of modern city/country migrations the "food" would seem to be money/wealth. Very complex in any case.
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Post by matt on Aug 28, 2010 19:49:20 GMT
In the case of modern city/country migrations the "food" would seem to be money/wealth. True on the city side of the equation. The city is where folks go to "feed" on money. The country is where folks go to "feed" on peace.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 11, 2010 2:23:36 GMT
For those of you who have read this thread, I predicted higher prices because of food rationing that would need to take place. This is the result of a cold early growing season. In some areas it was wet and cold to boot. Once it got warm, there was not sufficient root structure to provide for the plants to produce. I hope you took my advice and stocked up on the staples when they were in abundant supply.
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Post by trbixler on Oct 11, 2010 14:45:05 GMT
For those of you who have read this thread, I predicted higher prices because of food rationing that would need to take place. This is the result of a cold early growing season. In some areas it was wet and cold to boot. Once it got warm, there was not sufficient root structure to provide for the plants to produce. I hope you took my advice and stocked up on the staples when they were in abundant supply. "Corn, Soybeans, Wheat Called Higher as Supplies Drop" www.businessweek.com/news/2010-10-11/corn-soybeans-wheat-called-higher-as-supplies-drop.html
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Post by trbixler on Oct 17, 2010 5:11:43 GMT
Something about a string of bad harvests and demand. "Flashback to 1870 as Cotton Hits Peak " "The sudden surge in prices—cotton has risen up to 56% in three months—has alarmed manufacturers and retailers, who worry they may be forced to pass on higher costs to recession-weary consumers. The December cotton contract hit $1.1980 a pound minutes after the opening of trading on the IntercontinentalExchange Inc. on Friday. It is officially the highest price since records began back in 1870 with the creation of the New York Cotton Exchange." online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704300604575554210569885910.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection
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Post by randwick on Oct 21, 2010 7:24:36 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Nov 10, 2010 0:45:54 GMT
"Food price fears as US warns on crop yields" "The spectre of inflation loomed over agricultural markets after the US slashed key crop forecasts and warned of shortfalls in grains. The agriculture department on Tuesday cut estimates of US corn yields for a third successive month, forecast record soyabean exports to China and warned of the slimmest cotton stocks since 1925" www.ft.com/cms/s/0/249211fc-ec1d-11df-9e11-00144feab49a.html#axzz14psY4hFs
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Post by sigurdur on Nov 10, 2010 2:32:46 GMT
Seems someone was on here warning of what a cool, wet spring would do to root development etc. The outcome of todays report does not surprise me in the least.
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Post by curiousgeorge on Nov 10, 2010 13:18:58 GMT
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