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Post by hunterson on Jul 26, 2010 17:18:58 GMT
The Venus transit of 1882, did altered the Magnetic pole location towards Eastern Canada, creating stronger magnetic field on the Gulf Stream. an increased Gulf Stream current will bring hotter water to Ireland and Norway thus warming up the water. Near complete ice melting around the 82 parallel was discovered in 1908. Now we are experiencing the reverse effect and the 2004 Venus transit did altered the Magnetic pole location towards Russia. You have no proof of this at all. You have no possible mechanism beyond mgical forces to support your silly claim. |
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Post by excalibur on Jul 26, 2010 17:24:21 GMT
The Venus transit of 1882, did altered the Magnetic pole location towards Eastern Canada, creating stronger magnetic field on the Gulf Stream. an increased Gulf Stream current will bring hotter water to Ireland and Norway thus warming up the water. Near complete ice melting around the 82 parallel was discovered in 1908. Now we are experiencing the reverse effect and the 2004 Venus transit did altered the Magnetic pole location towards Russia. You have no proof of this at all. You have no possible mechanism beyond mgical forces to support your silly claim. You trolled all the posts that proves what I just claimed, and it is based on scientifically based observations. Do you want me to repeat all the evidences once more just for one of your many characters? I know it divert from the CO2 cult that you and your clones try to blind us with |
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Post by hunterson on Jul 26, 2010 19:02:29 GMT
So now X,ooo year old fragments of cuneiform or hieroglyphics are considered 'scientific observations'?
You have no evidence.
All you have is bloviation. Just like your persistant and self-humiliating false claim that I am posting as Touko.
But hwat is hilarious is that your lack of perceptive ability lumps me in with people who think CO2 is the main driver of the climate and that the world climate is heading towards some sort of apocalypse.
It takes true blindness to read what I write and come to that conclusion.
But, afterall, we are dealling with excalibur/goldblaster: what else should really be expected?
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Post by boxman on Jul 26, 2010 20:06:20 GMT
The Venus transit of 1882, did altered the Magnetic pole location towards Eastern Canada, creating stronger magnetic field on the Gulf Stream. an increased Gulf Stream current will bring hotter water to Ireland and Norway thus warming up the water. Near complete ice melting around the 82 parallel was discovered in 1908. Now we are experiencing the reverse effect and the 2004 Venus transit did altered the Magnetic pole location towards Russia. I am very skeptical.. But it does indeed fit with the actual observations here. The so called global warming here peaked around 2003 and temps have been steadily on the decline since. |
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Post by excalibur on Jul 26, 2010 21:05:06 GMT
The Venus transit of 1882, did altered the Magnetic pole location towards Eastern Canada, creating stronger magnetic field on the Gulf Stream. an increased Gulf Stream current will bring hotter water to Ireland and Norway thus warming up the water. Near complete ice melting around the 82 parallel was discovered in 1908. Now we are experiencing the reverse effect and the 2004 Venus transit did altered the Magnetic pole location towards Russia. I am very skeptical.. But it does indeed fit with the actual observations here. The so called global warming here peaked around 2003 and temps have been steadily on the decline since. No you are not "Skeptical" because you are considering an alternative to CO2. Skeptics are doing more to point to CO2 than finding the real causes. Wait and see the next Venus cycle of 10/10/10 It will be followed by major climatic anomalies, just think of the Tsunami and Katrina following previous Venus cycles... |
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Post by boxman on Jul 26, 2010 22:03:49 GMT
I am very skeptical.. But it does indeed fit with the actual observations here. The so called global warming here peaked around 2003 and temps have been steadily on the decline since. No you are not "Skeptical" because you are considering an alternative to CO2. Skeptics are doing more to point to CO2 than finding the real causes. Wait and see the next Venus cycle of 10/10/10 It will be followed by major climatic anomalies, just think of the Tsunami and Katrina following previous Venus cycles... I think the real cause is the sun and other natural cycles.  The sun has been more active in last decades than it has been in over 8000 years, so i dont find it that it has gotten a bit warmer. I bet temperatures will plummet again within next 10 years now that sun activity is again low. I dont see how a venus transition could affect anything though. Past history also shows that climate react more strongly to extended periods of high/low activity than AGW believers give it credit for. Solar activity over the holocene: 3.bp.blogspot.com/_4aWH2tUF5rg/S6VM524k3cI/AAAAAAAAAB4/5aqRAM4ftLE/s400/image002.gifThis graph i believe is based on cosmic ray proxy, so of course not 100% accurate. |
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Post by excalibur on Jul 26, 2010 23:04:53 GMT
Indeed the Sun 11 years cycle Max/Min is a no brainer, ancient civilizations had all the time in their life to look up and observe the moving planets and its impacts on the climate.
Venus is the center of numerous myth about cataclysmic climatic change.
We know now the impact of solar wind, we can explain the effect of Venus our sister planet blocking the Sun when the Sun is the farthest during its Minimum Cycle and when Venus is the closest to Earth.
It will block a maximum of the Solar wind responsible for the Magnetosphere and thus Earth Magnetic pole location, and if the ancient civilizations are correct, a sudden pole shift
Its the Sun the ultimate driver, Venus is just doing what she has been doing millions of years ago
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Post by hunterson on Jul 27, 2010 1:07:40 GMT
Indeed the Sun 11 years cycle Max/Min is a no brainer, ancient civilizations had all the time in their life to look up and observe the moving planets and its impacts on the climate. Venus is the center of numerous myth about cataclysmic climatic change. We know now the impact of solar wind, we can explain the effect of Venus our sister planet blocking the Sun when the Sun is the farthest during its Minimum Cycle and when Venus is the closest to Earth. It will block a maximum of the Solar wind responsible for the Magnetosphere and thus Earth Magnetic pole location, and if the ancient civilizations are correct, a sudden pole shift Its the Sun the ultimate driver, Venus is just doing what she has been doing millions of years ago Venus at its closest to Earth is 38.2 million kms. from Earth. It is at the distance for a tiny bit of time. nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/venusfact.htmlDiscoverer: Unknown Discovery Date: Prehistoric Distance from Earth Minimum (106 km) 38.2 Maximum (106 km) 261.0 Apparent diameter from Earth Maximum (seconds of arc) 66.0 Minimum (seconds of arc) 9.7 Maximum visual magnitude -4.6 Mean values at inferior conjunction with Earth Distance from Earth (106 km) 41.44 Apparent diameter (seconds of arc) 60.2 66 seconds of arc is very tiny.Sun Observational Parameters Apparent diameter from Earth At 1 A.U.(seconds of arc) 1919. Maximum (seconds of arc) 1952. Minimum (seconds of arc) 1887. Distance from Earth Mean (106 km) 149.6 Minimum (106 km) 147.1 Maximum (106 km) 152.1 The sun is 1919 seconds of arc in diameter. That is huge. 3000 times the size of Venus from Earth. What protection is the sun going to give, even if it were to do a Velikovsky and somehow pace earth to 'protect us from the solar wind'. Not anything close to significant. By the way, show us any evidence that ancients used magnets in any significant way, understood the concept of magnetic pole or offered us any indication that they documented a move of the pole. You have none. By the way- have you been abducted lately? the sun from Earth is: |
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Post by stranger on Jul 27, 2010 1:32:45 GMT
And of course, with the lessening of solar activity, the Earth's magnetic field has gotten very much weaker. Whether the drop in field intensity is related to the lessening of solar activity is unknown, whether it is significant is unknown, and so on and so on.
Correlation does not speak of causation - at least until it happens twenty or so times. But the list of things we do not know is very much longer than those we do.
In fact, just about the only thing we know for certain is doom peddlers have been selling their wares since the first humans, and the Earth is still orbiting the sun, the seasons and the days come and go as they should, and at certain depths in certain bogs, arctic pollens predominate for a space, preceded and followed by the pollens of temperate zone plants.
Observing the results of past cycles, it seems it is now time for the descending phase of the great and very noisy sine wave that marks out our temperature cycles.
Stranger
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Post by excalibur on Jul 27, 2010 1:35:21 GMT
"The doom peddlers" seems to have survived previous cataclysm by relying on Venus cycles.
Funny how anything who does not talk about CO2 is getting the same trolls action...All skeptics of course
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Post by hunterson on Jul 27, 2010 1:43:02 GMT
stranger,
Excellent point. The doom peddlers have been wrong- the Noah story (which has nothing to do with Venus) is a myth. There was never a worldwide flood.
Venus never spun out of Jupiter. Venus never wandered around the solar system. (and the ancients ahd no idea that we are in a sun centered system with planets in orbit to wander out of)
The book of Revelations in the Bible (not to pick on just the Bible) is full of apocalyptic visions that people for nearly 2000 years have been claiming is fixin' to happen. And it never has.
There has in fact been no planetary wide apocalyptic event during the lifespan of the human species (thank God).
But that will never prevent the hucksters and suckers from predicting the, From CO2 to Venus, the ignoratsi will claim special knowledge of a coming apocalypse that they are enlightened enough to see.
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Post by excalibur on Jul 27, 2010 2:25:27 GMT
Venus is believed by our ancestors to be the center of cataclysmic climate changes , and with the Tsunami and Katrina and El Nino and the Haiti earthquake following Venus obstruction cycles, we have to take their advice seriously. Noah myth is exactly the same in all other civilizations, ask yourself why The Black Sea carries all the proof of Noah's like flood(s) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory |
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Post by hunterson on Jul 27, 2010 2:45:42 GMT
Venus is believed by our ancestors to be the center of cataclysmic climate changes , and with the Tsunami and Katrina and El Nino and the Haiti earthquake following Venus obstruction cycles, we have to take their advice seriously. Noah myth is exactly the same in all other civilizations, ask yourself why The Black Sea carries all the proof of Noah's like flood(s) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theoryThe myths are not the same. Noah believed in Yahweh, and the flood myth is about Yahweh destroying all but one family, led by Noah who in faith obeyed God and lived righteously in God's eyes. Here are two of may listings of ancient flood myths showing similarities and differences between them: www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.htmlwww.mendhak.com/66-ancient-flood-myths-from-around-the-world.aspxThe Black Sea disproves the Noah myth because it is well established that the Black Sea flooded when an ancient natural dam in what is now the Bosporus failed and let the Mediterranean inundate the Black Sea basin. The basin was hundreds of feet lower than the Med due to evaporation out pacing river and rainfall input. The Black Sea rose at about one foot per day. Venus had nothing to do with the Black Sea. |
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Post by excalibur on Jul 27, 2010 2:56:27 GMT
All the physical evidence of the Black Sea flood show a wall of 120 meter of sea water rushing in
Noah Myth is the same as other civilizations, the color and dimension of the boat may vary...
It relates to Venus transit effect on Earth's magnetosphere and impact on magnetic pole position and in strength of Sea Currents
SOL-SOLARWIND-VENUS-MAGNETOSPHERE-MagneticPoleLocation-SEACURRENTS-CLIMATE
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Post by hunterson on Jul 27, 2010 3:24:06 GMT
All the physical evidence of the Black Sea flood show a wall of 120 meter of sea water rushing in Noah Myth is the same as other civilizations, the color and dimension of the boat may vary... It relates to Venus transit effect on Earth's magnetosphere and impact on magnetic pole position and in strength of Sea Currents SOL-SOLARWIND-VENUS-MAGNETOSPHERE-MagneticPoleLocation-SEACURRENTS-CLIMATE Not according to the people who developed the theory and discovered the evidnece: "• Funneled through the narrow Bosporus, the water hit the Black Sea with 200 times the force of Niagara Falls. Each day the Black Sea rose about six inches (15 centimeters), and coastal farms were flooded." www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/ax/frame.htmlSix inches. Per day. Not 120 meters. And please show any reference to Venus, besides what modern people claim. And again: So what? Ancients believed many thins that turned out to be wrong. why should an alleged correlation between Venus and disasters be any less wrong? We zip past Venus pretty often and completely regularly. why would Venus not occasionally be seen when something bad goes on? Venus is seen regularly when anything goes on. What mechanism does Venus use to influence bad things on Earth in your view? |
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