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Post by sigurdur on Jul 5, 2011 1:30:01 GMT
I tell ya....it is going to be very close to 3.5 by the time this melt season is over.
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Post by graywolf on Jul 5, 2011 8:32:35 GMT
Hi Thermos!
It must surely ring alarm bells for some of the folk who remain undecided about the ongoing ice volume reduction in the Arctic if an average summer can produce a melt (extent or area) as great as the 'perfect storm ' of 07' did? And if this occured on two consecutive years as we must be looking at right now? Science was gobsmacked by the ferocity of the 07' melt as it appeared to be at least 30years in advance of the most dire predictions of the day. for such a melt to now be becoming 'common place' says enough for me!
As for final numbers? I think 3.5 to 4.5 would be a realistic ball park figure for the numbers to end up at with 'export' of ice making the lowest figure available should the synoptics fall right for such.
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Post by neilhamp on Jul 6, 2011 6:38:28 GMT
Most votes (74%) in the poll suggest sea ice will exceed 4.5 by September
Will we all be wrong?
Looking at the AMSRE chart much depends on how that red line moves in July
Will it stay above 2010 levels or drop down with the 2007 sea ice extent
I am still favouring levels greater than 2010
We don't have long to wait
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Post by neilhamp on Jul 9, 2011 14:46:18 GMT
Hmm! AMSRE Red line dropping below 2007 levels
Is this going to continue?
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 9, 2011 16:21:18 GMT
Hmm! AMSRE Red line dropping below 2007 levels Is this going to continue? This year is going to be lower than 2007. I have been predicting this for a long time. Cyclically, we should recover in the following years, however, the effects of black carbon in the ice will take some time to melt out. The only way to let the ice increase, is for China and India to have better pollution control. Either that or have Austrailia quit selling coal to the Chinese. |
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Post by scpg02 on Jul 9, 2011 17:40:48 GMT
Hmm! AMSRE Red line dropping below 2007 levels Is this going to continue? This year is going to be lower than 2007. I have been predicting this for a long time. Cyclically, we should recover in the following years, however, the effects of black carbon in the ice will take some time to melt out. The only way to let the ice increase, is for China and India to have better pollution control. Either that or have Austrailia quit selling coal to the Chinese. I've seen reports of environmentalism hitting china but that will take some time to manifest to the extremes we have it. |
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 9, 2011 17:49:41 GMT
Some in Austrailia have their shorts in a bind concerning co2. IF they really wanted to do something, they would stop exporting coal. Funny how that isn't one of their solutions.
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Post by numerouno on Jul 9, 2011 19:10:39 GMT
 COI Arctic sea ice extent @ 30%, today. |
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 9, 2011 19:15:03 GMT
And dropping like a rock in the ocean numerouno. I still think my 3.5 is going to be spot on when all is said and done.
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Post by scpg02 on Jul 9, 2011 19:24:35 GMT
Some in Austrailia have their shorts in a bind concerning co2. IF they really wanted to do something, they would stop exporting coal. Funny how that isn't one of their solutions. LOL I used to say the same thing about smoking, if it is really that bad for you make it illegal. The government wants that tax revenue. |
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Post by graywolf on Jul 9, 2011 22:46:21 GMT
COI Arctic sea ice extent @ 30%, today. I hope that trend doesan't continue? Wouldn't want folk to worry (an' all)..... |
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 9, 2011 23:09:29 GMT
Is someone worrying?
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Post by magellan on Jul 10, 2011 0:18:56 GMT
Before getting too excited, AMSR-E has had "issues" in the past. Let's just leave it at that.
Graywolf, have you looked at the Cryosat results yet? Looks like it is in need of some adjustments.
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Jul 10, 2011 0:33:12 GMT
COI Arctic sea ice extent @ 30%, today. I hope that trend doesan't continue? Wouldn't want folk to worry (an' all)..... How old are you, Mr. Wolf? I have to admit it grows tiresome to read your sophmoric and gloaty little posts. You sound like a nerd who managed to get a cell phone photo of the football star with his pants down and is tweeting it to his pimply little friends. Sig and I have both predicted 3.5 this summer, and we're not taking victory laps around the message board. I think neither of us see the doom you predict, and we certainly wouldn't be gleeful if we did. Since you are still posting, I assume you haven't permanently parked your car and pulled the main on your electrical in order to do your part to "save the planet." Until you do (at which time you will cease to annoy me), why don't you try to be a little more adult with your posts? Sorry for the rant, folks. I know I'm not one of the regulars here and so am probably out of line, but this guy's gloating really chafes. |
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Post by richard on Jul 10, 2011 1:01:17 GMT
Most votes (74%) in the poll suggest sea ice will exceed 4.5 by September Will we all be wrong? since this is a denialist-dominated website, it would be amazing if you WEREN'T all wrong |
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