Most votes (74%) in the poll suggest sea ice will exceed 4.5 by September Will we all be wrong?
since this is a denialist-dominated website, it would be amazing if you WEREN'T all wrong
Funny how I odn't see any denialists here. Climate Science is not a wrong or right issue. There are many assumptions used to try and prove AGW. What I see here are questions as to the validity of those assumptions. By not having a moderator clipping posts etc, the discussion is very forthright and this is a much better forum for discussing issues that some others I have visited as of late.
There are very verrrrrrrry valid questions which are presented here.
The results of studies can be freely discussed. Yes, once in a while a person looses his head, but I would hope you have noticed for the most past the discussion is done in a civil manner.
And it is supported by real world observations. That is the KEY.
Back to ice and black carbon. China's coal production and consumption have increased by approx 1500 million short tons in the past 10 years. The additional load of BC to the Arctic ice from China is enough to make the 3.5 very plausable and I expect it to happen.
Hello everybody, I don't know if this is the right thread for such a question, but could somebody redirect me to sources describing the possible effects on global ocean currents (and wind patterns, etc), were arctic sea ice to completely or almost completely melt?
The models have proven unable to do regional, continental or global scale climate prediction.
Nevertheless, the Potsdam Institute for Climate Propaganda had a paper late last year claiming less sea-ice might cause colder winters further south. They reasoned that the heat released when so much open water froze might create blocking high pressure systems and possibly disrupt the jet stream. This, however, would cause considerable cooling of the Earth.
Sure it is! AGW is happening right now. Your comment is akin to watching a house burn down and opening a debate as to whether the house is on fire or not.
Richard: In your opinion AGW is happening now. I will make an assumption....that you are basing that opinion on climate models....is that a fair assumption?
Nope. I'm basing that on the fact that every decade in recent memory has been warmer than the one before. I'm basing it on the fact that all physics supports the conclusion. Models, well, they're irrelevant to the issue other than they try to quantify the facts.