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Post by dontgetoutmuch on Feb 6, 2012 16:56:30 GMT
Students at a high school in Boca Raton, Florida, must step over rivers of urine and endure the stench of rancid waste after a plan to bring 'green' waterless urinals into bathrooms backfired. School officials at Spanish River High School thought they had found an environmentally-friendly, cost-saving solution for their bathrooms when they installed Falcon Waterfree urinals in their boys bathrooms. But with no water moving through the school's copper pipes to flush the urine into the sewer system, the waste produced noxious gases that ate through the metal, leaving leaky pipes that allowed urine to drip into walls and flow onto floors. 'It was pretty disgusting,' school board chairman Frank Barbieri told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. 'The girls had to step over a river of urine. I could smell it as soon as I walked into the hallway.' Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093979/Students-step-rivers-urine-green-bathrooms-plan-turns-high-school-yellow--cost-500-000-fix.html#ixzz1lcavtsMR
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Post by curiousgeorge on Feb 6, 2012 18:34:33 GMT
Students at a high school in Boca Raton, Florida, must step over rivers of urine and endure the stench of rancid waste after a plan to bring 'green' waterless urinals into bathrooms backfired. School officials at Spanish River High School thought they had found an environmentally-friendly, cost-saving solution for their bathrooms when they installed Falcon Waterfree urinals in their boys bathrooms. But with no water moving through the school's copper pipes to flush the urine into the sewer system, the waste produced noxious gases that ate through the metal, leaving leaky pipes that allowed urine to drip into walls and flow onto floors. 'It was pretty disgusting,' school board chairman Frank Barbieri told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. 'The girls had to step over a river of urine. I could smell it as soon as I walked into the hallway.' Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093979/Students-step-rivers-urine-green-bathrooms-plan-turns-high-school-yellow--cost-500-000-fix.html#ixzz1lcavtsMRActual engineering is a distant 2nd place to pushing a "green" agenda. Shows up all the time - windmills, EV's, solar panels, various biofuel projects, ad infinitum. They never consider the factors that doom these projects to failure, whether it's the wrong plumbing or the local weather. Bunch of amateurs that can't see beyond the ends of their pointy little noses.
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 7, 2012 2:07:09 GMT
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Post by curiousgeorge on Feb 7, 2012 3:37:53 GMT
Germany's poor power planning for the sake of being "green" is tantamount to committing national economic suicide. Which seems to be growing in popularity in a number of 1st world economies.
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 7, 2012 3:48:21 GMT
Yep...of which the USA seems intent on doing as well.
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Post by trbixler on Feb 7, 2012 4:23:27 GMT
Mr. Green having solved the energy crisis (just skyrocket the prices), solved global warming (just skyrocket energy prices), solved employment (just take 1.2 million people off the roles) will now solve population control (takes on the Catholic Church).
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Post by trbixler on Feb 9, 2012 3:05:03 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Feb 13, 2012 15:46:18 GMT
Mr. Green's unintended consequences. More votes for Governments expertise and California's move to electric cars. Count the EPA as a polluter. All the wrong stuff based on all the wrong reasons. As an aside why not safer bike routes, god forbid a place to shower at work. Cars and bikes do not mix well and the consequences can be deadly. One of my clubs has had four deaths. One lady was killed by a car driven by someone very preoccupied with their cell phone conversation. Another because the driver wanted to scare the bike rider. On a ride that I was on a driver did not like bicyclists and slammed on his brakes putting a rider in our group thru his back window. Fortunately only a hospital stay. The driver was charged and convicted. Why an electric bike when just better bikeways would help. "Shocker: dirty electric cars"  "Chris Cherry, assistant professor in civil and environmental engineering, and graduate student Shuguang Ji, analyzed the emissions and environmental health impacts of five vehicle technologies in 34 major Chinese cities, focusing on dangerous fine particles. What Cherry and his team found defies conventional logic: electric cars cause much more overall harmful particulate matter pollution than gasoline cars. “An implicit assumption has been that air quality and health impacts are lower for electric vehicles than for conventional vehicles,” Cherry said. “Our findings challenge that by comparing what is emitted by vehicle use to what people are actually exposed to. Prior studies have only examined environmental impacts by comparing emission factors or greenhouse gas emissions.”" wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/13/shocker-dirty-electric-cars/
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Post by curiousgeorge on Feb 14, 2012 2:02:30 GMT
TR: Often the definition of progress is simply to replace historical problems with new (and usually worse) problems.
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Post by magellan on Feb 14, 2012 4:13:51 GMT
TR: Often the definition of progress is simply to replace historical problems with new (and usually worse) problems. I'm not ready to drive a coal fired car yet.
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Post by curiousgeorge on Feb 14, 2012 21:50:28 GMT
Ok, tell me again what a good deal Solar is. In the latest setback for the solar energy industry, Auburn Hills-based Energy Conversion Devices said today that it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and intends to sell its assets, including its main subsidiary United Solar Ovonic.
“We firmly believe there is a strong and sustainable commercial market for Uni-Solar products,” Julian Hawkins, ECD’s CEO and president, said in a statement. “However our current capital structure and legacy costs are preventing USO from making the investments necessary for the future of the business without restructuring through the bankruptcy process.” www.freep.com/article/20120214/BUSINESS06/120214023/Energy-Conversion-Devices-bankruptcy-ECD?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
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Post by trbixler on Feb 18, 2012 0:57:07 GMT
Mr. Green and Duke. Wow 196 "jobs" for just $230 million, sounds like a green deal to me.  "Democratic National Cronyism Dem convention co-chair’s company received $230.4M in stimulus money, hired Podesta Group to lobby" "Just as Rogers has helped fund Democratic politicians, they, in turn, have helped steer massive amounts of federal funding to Duke Energy. The 2009 stimulus package, for instance, was a boon for the company: Duke received federal grants totaling $230.4 million for a number of “green” energy projects including “smart grid” development and wind energy storage. According to Recovery.gov, Duke created 196.6 jobs as a result of the grants." freebeacon.com/democratic-national-cronyism/
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 18, 2012 18:32:54 GMT
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Post by curiousgeorge on Feb 18, 2012 21:59:10 GMT
Why would Israel want to arm those who have sworn to destroy it, as required by the Quran? And electricity is part of that equation.
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 19, 2012 0:15:11 GMT
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