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Post by sigurdur on Jul 26, 2018 23:28:30 GMT
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0959683617715701Shallow marine molluscs that are today extinct close to Svalbard, because of the cold climate, are found in deposits there dating to the early Holocene. The most warmth-demanding species found, Zirfaea crispata, currently has a northern limit 1000 km farther south, indicating that August temperatures on Svalbard were 6°C warmer at around 10.2–9.2 cal. ka BP, when this species lived there
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 27, 2018 21:21:07 GMT
Bringing this to this set of pages.... It's still looking a little parky up North ... I wouldn't bet on a huge melt this year.
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Post by acidohm on Jul 27, 2018 22:31:33 GMT
Bringing this to this set of pages.... It's still looking a little parky up North ... I wouldn't bet on a huge melt this year. It's going to be hard to quantify this soon with the satellite debacle looming....
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 27, 2018 23:22:58 GMT
Damn data! Make it disappear Al.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 28, 2018 10:13:40 GMT
Bringing this to this set of pages.... It's still looking a little parky up North ... I wouldn't bet on a huge melt this year. It's going to be hard to quantify this soon with the satellite debacle looming.... I believe that the DMI figure uses a set of surface 'buoys' on the ice from which they generate a mean for the area. Satellites find it difficult over the poles. There is another indicator that appears to be increasing when the expectation is a decrease..
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Post by acidohm on Jul 28, 2018 10:17:54 GMT
That Greenland ice mass is 😳😳😳
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Post by Ratty on Jul 28, 2018 10:54:06 GMT
That Greenland ice mass is 😳😳😳 It is quite disgusting that anything like that should be allowed to be published so poor uneducated people might se it.
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Post by blustnmtn on Jul 28, 2018 12:38:23 GMT
I wonder what GW’s take on all of this is.
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Post by Ratty on Jul 28, 2018 12:49:01 GMT
I wonder what GW’s take on all of this is. Who?
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Post by acidohm on Jul 28, 2018 16:14:54 GMT
I wonder what GW’s take on all of this is. Well he's not worried I don't think, else he'd be here getting all excited.
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Post by blustnmtn on Jul 28, 2018 18:58:50 GMT
I wonder what GW’s take on all of this is. Well he's not worried I don't think, else he'd be here getting all excited. My main concern is that he set sail for the Nortwest Passage during the last positive going blip and now he’s trapped in the ice with polar bears and narwhals. GW is a gentleman and a forum brother. We need his viewpoint to keep us from becoming an echo chamber.
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Post by Ratty on Jul 28, 2018 23:17:22 GMT
Well he's not worried I don't think, else he'd be here getting all excited. My main concern is that he set sail for the Nortwest Passage during the last positive going blip and now he’s trapped in the ice with polar bears and narwhals. GW is a gentleman and a forum brother. We need his viewpoint to keep us from becoming an echo chamber. Hear, hear !!
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Post by nonentropic on Jul 29, 2018 2:12:59 GMT
GW was a bit predictable though.
Regardless we need to show caution because one short period of Arctic ice growth is not an ice age. But it all starts somewhere.
In my mind what a relief to the world if the world were to cool just 1C in the next two years. How much poverty could be averted if the trillions of dollars were to be diverted to useful endeavor.
Fingers crossed.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 29, 2018 3:12:43 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 29, 2018 4:09:01 GMT
agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2006GL026510[1] We provide an analysis of Greenland temperature records to compare the current (1995–2005) warming period with the previous (1920–1930) Greenland warming. We find that the current Greenland warming is not unprecedented in recent Greenland history.
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