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Post by trbixler on May 28, 2012 4:36:27 GMT
More on disaster at the hands of Obama's EPA. "Necessary skyrocketing" "This electricity increase will force thousands of businesses to shut down. Even many big businesses can’t handle this cost increase. It will kill more jobs than anything has to date, making the Great Depression look like a roaring recovery. It will make things we take for granted, like fresh produce, impossible to obtain unless you live right next to a farm (and live outside of the Northeast, where commercial farming will die out entirely) – but it will also distort and suppress all kinds of sophisticated and packaged production, including those related to the most basic necessities. The price of gasoline may remain comparatively stable, but if there are far fewer retailers to ship products to, many truckers will still go out of business." hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/05/24/necessary-skyrocketing/
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Post by sigurdur on May 28, 2012 17:09:21 GMT
Oh boy. Any chance of economic recovery has just got down the tubes.
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Post by trbixler on May 29, 2012 1:20:24 GMT
Another article. Why is this not on the front page of every newspaper? Why is this not on the top of the nightly news? "What is Obama's War on Coal doing to your electric bill?" "The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That's eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt. Why the massive price increases? Andy Ott from PJM stated the obvious: "Capacity prices were higher than last year's because of retirements of existing coal-fired generation resulting largely from environmental regulations which go into effect in 2015." Northern Ohio is suffering from more forced coal-plant retirements than the rest of the region, hence the even higher price. These are not computer models or projections or estimates. These are the actual prices that electric distributors have agreed to pay for new capacity. The costs will be passed on to consumers at the retail level." www.beaufortobserver.net/Articles-NEWS-and-COMMENTARY-c-2012-05-22-260561.112112-What-is-Obamas-War-on-Coal-doing-to-your-electric-bill.html
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Post by throttleup on May 29, 2012 12:01:47 GMT
Another article. Why is this not on the front page of every newspaper? Why is this not on the top of the nightly news? "What is Obama's War on Coal doing to your electric bill?" "The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That's eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt. Why the massive price increases? Andy Ott from PJM stated the obvious: "Capacity prices were higher than last year's because of retirements of existing coal-fired generation resulting largely from environmental regulations which go into effect in 2015." Northern Ohio is suffering from more forced coal-plant retirements than the rest of the region, hence the even higher price. These are not computer models or projections or estimates. These are the actual prices that electric distributors have agreed to pay for new capacity. The costs will be passed on to consumers at the retail level." www.beaufortobserver.net/Articles-NEWS-and-COMMENTARY-c-2012-05-22-260561.112112-What-is-Obamas-War-on-Coal-doing-to-your-electric-bill.html "Children just aren't going to know what electricity is."
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Post by throttleup on Jun 11, 2012 18:57:55 GMT
President Obama is quoted in a New Yorker column by hooked-in journalist Ryan Lizza as believing the most important issue to address in his second term would be climate change. "Obama has an ambitious second-term agenda, which, at least in broad ways, his campaign is beginning to highlight. The President has said that the most important policy he could address in his second term is climate change, one of the few issues that he thinks could fundamentally improve the world decades from now. He also is concerned with containing nuclear proliferation." www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/06/obama_believes_the_most_important_issue_of_second_term_is_climate_change.html#ixzz1xUSr8JdYAs the article's author states later..."Tens of millions of people out of work or underemployed; pension funds at risk; the entitlement crisis is getting worse every day it is unaddressed; the oncoming "fiscal cliff" threatens to throw us into another recession (predicted by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office; Taxmaggedon begins on January 1st; our deficit is enormous and we have accumulated trillions of dollars of debt under his presidency with nothing to show for it other than high unemployment and high debt; and Barack Obama believes climate change trumps these concerns?" -------------- The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken (1880 – 1956) Journalist – magazine editor There are indeed some hobgoblins lurking that are not so imaginary; ones that would have been hard to foresee in Mr. Mencken’s time. But ‘climate change’ is not one of them.
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Post by Pooh on Jun 12, 2012 4:54:20 GMT
"... The President has said that the most important policy he could address in his second term is climate change, one of the few issues that he thinks could fundamentally improve the world decades from now. " From his objectives and point of view, that is absolutely correct. - "Climate Change" = "Global Warming" = "CO2" = "Fossil Fuels". - "Fossil Fuels" provide ~70% of the energy supply. - One can produce nothing without energy, - At long last, control of the "the means of production". While you look up " means of production", the following tunes might entertain you while you anticipate his Brave New World. mysite.verizon.net/cache.22/Internationale_orch2.midmysite.verizon.net/cache.22/ussr_national_anthem_instrumental.midIf, of course, we are fools enough to give him a second term.
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Post by trbixler on Jun 13, 2012 12:34:06 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 18, 2012 22:00:49 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Jun 19, 2012 1:30:43 GMT
But Mr. Green is in charge here and do as you are told. "Women march in Rio to protest 'green economy'" "Thousands of women representing social and farm movements marched in central Rio Monday to rail against the "green economy" advocated by the Rio+20 conference on sustainable development. Behind a large banner from the international peasant movement Via Campesina proclaiming "the peoples are against the mercantilization of nature", they marched several miles to the Flamengo park, the venue for the "People's Summit" organized by civil society groups on the sidelines of the Rio+20 event. Several hundred men closed off the march to show their solidarity. Perched atop a truck fitted with loudspeakers, a female activist howled: "This is a march of urban and rural women against this Rio+20 charade."" ca.news.yahoo.com/women-march-rio-protest-green-economy-174353168.html
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 20, 2012 13:15:49 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Jun 23, 2012 13:35:11 GMT
He said it I did not. Must be his paycheck and status do not any longer depend on the government. "Green ‘drivel"  "Having observed that global temperatures since the turn of the millennium have not gone up in the way computer-based climate models predicted, Lovelock acknowledged, “the problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago.” Now, Lovelock has given a follow-up interview to the UK’s Guardian newspaper in which he delivers more bombshells sure to anger the global green movement, which for years worshipped his Gaia theory and apocalyptic predictions that billions would die from man-made climate change by the end of this century." "(4) Finally, about claims “the science is settled” on global warming: “One thing that being a scientist has taught me is that you can never be certain about anything. You never know the truth. You can only approach it and hope to get a bit nearer to it each time. You iterate towards the truth. You don’t know it.” " www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/green-drivel
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 23, 2012 14:40:45 GMT
Kinda funny how this works. 20 years ago, based on what I read, I was sure that CO2 was a danger. As time went on....and the science changed.......I changed with it.
Now I know that CO2 is not some super GHG, it is part of a large mix.
And as I see it now, CO2 is not even a driver of climate. I think it is part of climate, and responds to climate.......but a driver?
Nope....no way no how.
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Post by trbixler on Jul 1, 2012 3:37:00 GMT
So green it kills. "The New Holocaust Deniers" "The harm done by the EPA, itself a creation of the environmental movement, has not been limited to stopping DDT. It is no coincidence that U.S. oil production, which had been growing at a rate of 3 percent per year through the 1940s, 50s, and 60s, peaked in 1971, immediately after the EPA’s creation, and has been declining ever since. In 1971, the U.S. produced 9.6 million barrels of oil per day (mpd). Today we are down to 5.6 mpd. Had we continued without environmentalist interference with our previous 3 percent per year growth in the period since — as the rest of the non-OPEC world actually did — we would today be producing 35 mpd, and the world economy would not be groaning under the extremely regressive tax represented by $100 per barrel oil prices. The environmentalist campaign against nuclear power has made its promise for plentiful, cheap electricity impossible as well." pjmedia.com/blog/the-new-holocaust-deniers/
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Post by glennkoks on Jul 1, 2012 12:38:13 GMT
tribixler, your using old data. U.S. oil production has been up the last last three years in a row. Which oddly enough are the first 3 years of the Obama administration.
2009 5,360.54 8.29 % 2010 5,474.35 2.12 % 2011 5,672.56 3.62 %
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Post by trbixler on Jul 1, 2012 13:06:49 GMT
So the wells just started to produce on Mr. Greens coronation. I guess it must take but a few minutes to punch a hole in the earth and have the oil burst forth. Glenn you know it does not work that way. Of course there was no new technology involved.
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