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Post by glennkoks on Dec 24, 2017 2:05:17 GMT
I have mixed feelings on the tax cuts just passed. The CBO has stated that the tax cuts would add 1.4 trillion to the deficit. Yes, as a middle class tax payer I feel I could use a break and so does every other tax payer in just about every tax bracket. I also feel that President Trump is trying to add a large dose of common sense business practice to our government and a business climate friendly atmosphere. I like the fact that if you take the reigns off the economy it will go.... With that being said 1.4 trillion in deficit increase is not a good thing. I prefer we all buckle down pay our fair share, work and grow our way out of this. Tax cuts are not the magic pixie dust some of the Republicans think it is. A common sense approach to taxation and spending is. Health Care is still weighing down on the economy. I know several if not dozens of people who would start their own business if they were not afraid of losing their health care provided from their current employer. We have to fix that first and the free market is usually the best option. We need to cut lose the reigns, cut out the middlemen and let the free market provide solutions to health care. CBO models are static and do not consider increased revenue as a result of an invigorated economy. There is not enough money in the universe to satisfy government appetite. Any change that lets the serfs keep a bit more of what they earn is a step in the right direction. Since I live in NY, I’m pretty much screwed, but I still want the shackles taken off this economy. I as well want the "shackles taken off" and the free market is certainly the best option. But you don't have to add 1.4 trillion to the deficit to fuel the economy now. The debt has reached such a point that we can't simply grow our way out of it. We have to: 1.) Grow the economy 2.) Control spending 3.) Pay the piper for our dues. Personally, I have been in pretty bad fiscal shape at times in my life. I never once spent my way out of it. I've cut to the bone, worked harder/smarter and paid off my debt. There is no doubt we are doing better as a nation economically. Now is the time to buckle down and pay the piper. Not spend the money on tax cuts. Many Republicans have forgot that there is a backside to the Laffer Curve.
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Post by Ratty on Dec 24, 2017 4:59:15 GMT
[ Snip ] I as well want the "shackles taken off" and the free market is certainly the best option. But you don't have to add 1.4 trillion to the deficit to fuel the economy now. The debt has reached such a point that we can't simply grow our way out of it. We have to: 1.) Grow the economy 2.) Control spending 3.) Pay the piper for our dues. Personally, I have been in pretty bad fiscal shape at times in my life. I never once spent my way out of it. I've cut to the bone, worked harder/smarter and paid off my debt. There is no doubt we are doing better as a nation economically. Now is the time to buckle down and pay the piper. Not spend the money on tax cuts. Many Republicans have forgot that there is a backside to the Laffer Curve. Glenn, the biggest problem with cutting spending and paying the piper is getting re-elected in our cargo cult societies. Great discussion everybody, btw. Anecdote: I have been in bad shape too. In October 1987, it was emotional as well as financial. In a panic, I sold all my share investments and paid off my loans. Had I held on, I would be sending this from my yacht in the Caribbean (outside hurricane season of course).
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 24, 2017 10:58:40 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 27, 2017 23:42:17 GMT
"we documented the Democratic establishment "us[ing] state chapters as straw men to circumvent campaign donation limits and launder(ing) the money back to her campaign." The 101-page complaint focused on the Hillary Victory Fund (HVF) — the $500 million joint fundraising committee between the Clinton campaign, DNC, and dozens of state parties — which did exactly that the Supreme Court declared would still be illegal.
HVF solicited six-figure donations from major donors, including Calvin Klein and "Family Guy" creator Seth MacFarlane, and routed them through state parties en route to the Clinton campaign. Roughly $84 million may have been laundered in what might be the single largest campaign finance scandal in U.S. history."www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-27/anatomy-hillary-clintons-84-million-money-laundering-scheme
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 29, 2017 4:25:02 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Dec 29, 2017 14:54:30 GMT
Rules as well as laws are tools used to control the serfs.
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Post by blustnmtn on Jan 2, 2018 13:58:38 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 2, 2018 15:22:48 GMT
The question to be asked is: Why? If the deal is so obviously bad that you have to 'massage it' and 'dupe' America, why would you proceed? Was the intent to make a deal that advantaged the Ayatolla's regime? That has been the effect.
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 7, 2018 20:22:16 GMT
Click on the graphics twice to get the full size copy. Might be an idea to save it as it may be disappeared.
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Post by blustnmtn on Jan 14, 2018 0:35:50 GMT
If I wanted America to fail, I would replace the Trump administration with the Hawaiian government! Not to worry, I’m sure congress will get to the bottom of how this “false alarm” happened. Just a cluster f**k of incompetence at best.
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Post by Ratty on Jan 14, 2018 1:00:53 GMT
If I wanted America to fail, I would replace the Trump administration with the Hawaiian government! Not to worry, I’m sure congress will get to the bottom of how this “false alarm” happened. Just a cluster f**k of incompetence at best. Jamie Lee Curtis has blamed Trump. Some of the quotes following her tweet indicate, somewhat, the difficult job Trump has:
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 14, 2018 4:10:13 GMT
If I wanted America to fail, I would replace the Trump administration with the Hawaiian government! Not to worry, I’m sure congress will get to the bottom of how this “false alarm” happened. Just a cluster f**k of incompetence at best. Jamie Lee Curtis has blamed Trump. Some of the quotes following her tweet indicate, somewhat, the difficult job Trump has:
Please inform her that we've mailed her coordinates to the beloved fat boy.
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Post by Ratty on Jan 14, 2018 10:08:40 GMT
[ Snip ] Please inform her that we've mailed her coordinates to the beloved fat boy. Should be an easy target (large co-ordinates) but, if he were to rely on facial recognition, he will need a more recent photograph.
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 14, 2018 10:53:28 GMT
If I wanted America to fail, I would replace the Trump administration with the Hawaiian government! Not to worry, I’m sure congress will get to the bottom of how this “false alarm” happened. Just a cluster f**k of incompetence at best. Jamie Lee Curtis has blamed Trump. Some of the quotes following her tweet indicate, somewhat, the difficult job Trump has:
Of course what Ms Lee Curtis cannot understand is that the little rocket man has his believable nuclear capability because of the soft kick the can down the road behavior of previous presidents starting before Clinton who gave the can a good kick. We know it is a believable nuclear capability because of the Hawaiian panic after a local alert without any corroboration from other media - after all even CNN might interrupt their program on Russian Collusion and Sh1tholes to mention a nuclear attack. The threats would have been in place whatever president was in power and rocket man was expecting Hillary and offers of more oil and food if he would keep quiet about nuclear development for another 8 years. He was not expecting a Trump/Mattis do that and you will be a cinder block response.
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 21, 2018 18:01:53 GMT
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