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Post by nautonnier on Aug 22, 2019 14:00:35 GMT
The problem is, it seems un-American to me to regulate someone's business just because you don't like their politics. I don't think that they have a duty to be "fair". Google does not even charge users anything. We are free to use it or ignore it. I'm sure that regulating them will be shaky legal ground. They really have us in a bad spot. I don't think you can ignore it. Google is choosing which news people get, what is found on searches etc. Google themselves claim that they swung millions of votes to Hillary which is why they were disappointed that 'they failed' (not Hillary Google failed!). It is already apparent that negative stories and searches are immediate while positive ones are memory holed. A one day event - OK you can possibly live with that but if information is to be continually slanted then they should be treated as part of the DNC and their work as a political contribution.
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Post by walnut on Aug 22, 2019 14:07:55 GMT
If they have really been working with the Chinese military, shut them down for treason. Weapons sales have to be approved through the federal gov't, right? Information is even more dangerous.
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Post by walnut on Aug 22, 2019 16:37:22 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 22, 2019 17:13:19 GMT
Would we tolerate a system whereby intrinsic elements of a product were supplied to consumers on the basis of something equivalent to political persuasion? Without the explicit permission of said consumers? Granted that information and ideas have more "wrinkles" (complexity) than electricity and corn products. A century ago, anti-trust activities (monopoly busting) were aimed at "unfair" concentrations of economic power. How much more important are attempts at concentration of political power? If President Trump were to employ the power of the Sherman Antitrust Act (and subsequent legislation) to Google and Amazon (others?), I doubt that he would be called a "Progressive". Somewhere, Teddy Roosevelt might smile. www.ushistory.org/us/43b.aspwww.alternet.org/2014/07/10-supreme-court-rulings-turned-corporations-people/
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Post by walnut on Aug 22, 2019 19:14:24 GMT
The new Library of Alexandria is privately owned, and curated by degenerates.
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Post by Ratty on Aug 22, 2019 22:11:09 GMT
I just can't understand how liberals manage to insinuate themselves into every successful institution and then destroy it in weeks. TU has an endowment of 1.1 billion dollars, an enrollment of only 5500, but they somehow cannot support a liberal arts program? They have quickly dumbed down standards and seem to be on the way to converting to a community college with a +10,000 per semester tuition bill. But they support a Division 1 sports program and compete against schools like Notre Dame, OU, etc. They are graduating "woke" social justice warriors who cannot solve a quadratic equation and do not know what "Hamlet" is. Just irritated because it had been a high quality and well regarded school until just lately. My son wanted to attend, but I don't think so. Not on my money... What about this bit? A Harvard Business School professor recently predicted that up to half of all American colleges and universities will go bankrupt in the next ten to 15 years.
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Post by Ratty on Aug 22, 2019 22:25:08 GMT
... and what does he mean by this: I now plan on leaving things to the esteemed Department of Justice (which I have doubtless already angered enough by going public) and disappearing for some time.What did he do?
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Post by walnut on Aug 22, 2019 22:54:41 GMT
I think that perhaps it is not unlike what has happened to print news. Things are changing unexpectedly and quickly, and it is catching those stodgy old institutions off guard. They didn't sense their own vulnerability until it was a little too late. Now that I have two kids college aged, those big cost numbers seem more real, and we are forced to take a harder look at what our boys gain from attending an intense brainwashing camp for 4 years. But, If the curriculum quality is still there, I am probably still on board. I just can't understand how liberals manage to insinuate themselves into every successful institution and then destroy it in weeks. TU has an endowment of 1.1 billion dollars, an enrollment of only 5500, but they somehow cannot support a liberal arts program? They have quickly dumbed down standards and seem to be on the way to converting to a community college with a +10,000 per semester tuition bill. But they support a Division 1 sports program and compete against schools like Notre Dame, OU, etc. They are graduating "woke" social justice warriors who cannot solve a quadratic equation and do not know what "Hamlet" is. Just irritated because it had been a high quality and well regarded school until just lately. My son wanted to attend, but I don't think so. Not on my money... What about this bit? A Harvard Business School professor recently predicted that up to half of all American colleges and universities will go bankrupt in the next ten to 15 years.
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Post by walnut on Aug 22, 2019 22:59:02 GMT
I tried twice to read that article, but I gave up both times. It's too bizarre and I didn't have the patience to parse though the strange statements. Any of several things that were written need verification or explanation. That's why I wondered if anyone here is familiar with this story, to explain it plainly and briefly. ... and what does he mean by this: I now plan on leaving things to the esteemed Department of Justice (which I have doubtless already angered enough by going public) and disappearing for some time.What did he do?
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 22, 2019 23:55:43 GMT
The new Library of Alexandria is privately owned, and curated by degenerates. Ellen works there?
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Post by walnut on Aug 23, 2019 0:04:31 GMT
I am not sure what is causing the trouble, but I think that due to outrageous tuition costs, colleges are pricing themselves out of business. Many promising young men are deciding that college is not worth their time and money. College campuses are increasingly the domain of soft liberal women. I think that somewhere in the article or comments I read that the TU president makes over $1 million a year? I think that perhaps it is not unlike what has happened to print news. Things are changing unexpectedly and quickly, and it is catching those stodgy old institutions off guard. They didn't sense their own vulnerability until it was a little too late. Now that I have two kids college aged, those big cost numbers seem more real, and we are forced to take a harder look at what our boys gain from attending an intense brainwashing camp for 4 years. But, If the curriculum quality is still there, I am probably still on board. What about this bit? A Harvard Business School professor recently predicted that up to half of all American colleges and universities will go bankrupt in the next ten to 15 years.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 23, 2019 1:26:54 GMT
Don't forget the minions of other educationally-worthless bureaucrats that roam the halls of academia. To wit, the 23 administrative assistants to the 5 executive secretaries of the 3rd vice-dean of collegial affairs (of the non-horizontal variety). Plus the hardware, software, meeting space and utilities required to host the flocks of voracious buzzards and their per deims that descend for the weekly gatherings of the flock. The problems of academia are not unlike those of the "dole", they just attract a better documented class of worthless leaches. I am not sure what is causing the trouble, but I think that due to outrageous tuition costs, colleges are pricing themselves out of business. Many promising young men are deciding that college is not worth their time and money. College campuses are increasingly the domain of soft liberal women. I think that somewhere in the article or comments I read that the TU president makes over $1 million a year? I think that perhaps it is not unlike what has happened to print news. Things are changing unexpectedly and quickly, and it is catching those stodgy old institutions off guard. They didn't sense their own vulnerability until it was a little too late. Now that I have two kids college aged, those big cost numbers seem more real, and we are forced to take a harder look at what our boys gain from attending an intense brainwashing camp for 4 years. But, If the curriculum quality is still there, I am probably still on board.
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Post by Ratty on Aug 23, 2019 5:48:14 GMT
Don't forget the minions of other educationally-worthless bureaucrats that roam the halls of academia. To wit, the 23 administrative assistants to the 5 executive secretaries of the 3rd vice-dean of collegial affairs (of the non-horizontal variety). Plus the hardware, software, meeting space and utilities required to host the flocks of voracious buzzards and their per deims that descend for the weekly gatherings of the flock. The problems of academia are not unlike those of the "dole", they just attract a better documented class of worthless leaches. [ Snip ] Sounds like the Australian public service .... every division/department/office frantically empire building for the benefit of the nation.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 23, 2019 15:59:25 GMT
Don't forget the minions of other educationally-worthless bureaucrats that roam the halls of academia. To wit, the 23 administrative assistants to the 5 executive secretaries of the 3rd vice-dean of collegial affairs (of the non-horizontal variety). Plus the hardware, software, meeting space and utilities required to host the flocks of voracious buzzards and their per deims that descend for the weekly gatherings of the flock. The problems of academia are not unlike those of the "dole", they just attract a better documented class of worthless leaches. [ Snip ] Sounds like the Australian public service .... every division/department/office frantically empire building for the benefit of the nation. ftbotnMA!
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 23, 2019 20:44:01 GMT
I am not sure what is causing the trouble, but I think that due to outrageous tuition costs, colleges are pricing themselves out of business. Many promising young men are deciding that college is not worth their time and money. College campuses are increasingly the domain of soft liberal women. I think that somewhere in the article or comments I read that the TU president makes over $1 million a year? I think that perhaps it is not unlike what has happened to print news. Things are changing unexpectedly and quickly, and it is catching those stodgy old institutions off guard. They didn't sense their own vulnerability until it was a little too late. Now that I have two kids college aged, those big cost numbers seem more real, and we are forced to take a harder look at what our boys gain from attending an intense brainwashing camp for 4 years. But, If the curriculum quality is still there, I am probably still on board. The Student Loan scheme by the government was generous and was in fact a money laundering operation by the government via students to the universities. As the costs that could be afforded by students rose so did the charges made by universities - supply and demand. Now the universities have all built fancy campuses, their professors are well if not overpaid, staff are similarly well paid. Then the number of students drops The burn rate for the university the costs of maintaining or paying mortgages on new buildings starts becoming a burden and panic breaks out. It is happening in UK too. There are those that think a 250 GPA in Media Studies may not be worth the student debt. There is a lot more money to be made working as a plumber or even a traveling hairdresser and you can do 'distance learning' at low cost. There will be a lot of bloated universities failing in the next few years.
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