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Post by missouriboy on Aug 15, 2017 1:49:32 GMT
Well ... I'm pretty sure I could survive a 7 meter increase. That might be marginal for some of our members.
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 15, 2017 1:59:10 GMT
7 meters................will that make my products worth more? Won't have to ship them quite so far on land?
Ocean freight is cheaper!
And if they can use the NW passage!!!!
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 15, 2017 5:58:23 GMT
7 meters................will that make my products worth more? Won't have to ship them quite so far on land? Ocean freight is cheaper! And if they can use the NW passage!!!! And all the new water-front property development ... could be a construction boom. You could float right up to the White house. My lot in Florida would be on an island. Egypt and Bangladesh would be knocking on your door for contracts. geology.com/sea-level-rise/washington.shtml
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Post by Ratty on Aug 15, 2017 6:09:15 GMT
7 meters................will that make my products worth more? Won't have to ship them quite so far on land? Ocean freight is cheaper! And if they can use the NW passage!!!! You will probably be able to ship from Grand Forks.
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 15, 2017 8:06:19 GMT
Of course as they have just been discovered they will only now start having an effect The assumption seems to be that we know all there is to know therefore anything new must have 'just happened' In the same way the ozone hole was discovered and must have just happened. Lucky that the Pacific was discovered before this illogical 'reasoning' became the vogue in 'academia'.
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Post by nonentropic on Aug 15, 2017 9:15:02 GMT
Piaget may have generated a new step in these times.
Something like say. All that is discovered, is miraculously enable to be active.
But would that be for 5 year olds in the general population or liberals at any age.
Clearly being stuck in the ways of the left is evidence that a learning step has not been attained.
Not sure our Universities would pass muster in these times. So who would mark the attainment of levels reached, all so worrying.
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 15, 2017 10:29:42 GMT
"It’s possibly the densest concentration of volcanoes in the world, some as high as 4km and we didn’t even know these existed til recently. Despite that overwhelming ignorance, we’re 97.00% certain that all the warming in Antarctica is due to your car and airconditioner. Robin McKie, The Guardian writer, talks about the recent discovery of so many volcanoes under the ice. Not surprisingly, we have no data on how active these volcanoes are. However because we *know* climate change is definitely wrecking Antarctica, it follows that your car, air conditioner and pet dog could melt more ice, take the pressure off the tectonic plate and set one off. Then things will really get out of hand.
Anyhow, it’s just a coincidence that all the warming in Antarctica is where the volcanoes are."joannenova.com.au/2017/08/antarctica-91-volcanoes-coincidentally-found-under-glaciers-warming-due-to-climate-change/
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 15, 2017 13:59:11 GMT
Piaget may have generated a new step in these times. Something like say. All that is discovered, is miraculously enable to be active. But would that be for 5 year olds in the general population or liberals at any age. Clearly being stuck in the ways of the left is evidence that a learning step has not been attained. Not sure our Universities would pass muster in these times. So who would mark the attainment of levels reached, all so worrying. The School of Hard Knocks, which, if you believe in the four-generational turnings of the saeculum, is heading their way. "If you believe hard enough in something, it will be so". With no real crises to focus the energies of the young, they have swallowed the bill of goods of the snake oil salesmen (paradise in a bottle). Past companion generations have left their bleached skeletons on the economic and cultural battlefields of failed expectations/mysticism on the downward slope of historical cycles. Ask the German or American youth of the 20s (if you could find one) where their companions went ... or the Jihadi youth of today (born around the turn of the century), or the 1840s generation. Some won, some lost on that generational journey into darkness ... and Tinker Bell choked on Pixie Dust.
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Post by Ratty on Aug 15, 2017 22:43:35 GMT
When does your book come out Missouri? Can I reserve a signed copy?
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 16, 2017 4:52:22 GMT
When does your book come out Missouri? Can I reserve a signed copy? Well you could ... but somebody else already made off with it. I'm licking my wounds,
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 13, 2017 18:33:48 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Sept 13, 2017 20:22:38 GMT
So....is the same true if you reduce arctic see ice, or similar??
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 13, 2017 20:55:44 GMT
So....is the same true if you reduce arctic see ice, or similar?? I would say that there is almost certainly a similar, but different, feedback effect. However, the Antarctic is more isolated by circumpolar currents. Whereas the Arctic is an isolated sea surrounded by continental landmasses so the effect will be different. Many people have pointed out on this board that lack of sea ice in the Arctic is a huge cooling event for the planet. So could that explain the sine wave of heating and cooling? Judith Curry's stadium wave may be true for a few cycles but then the various periods could go out of synch and the climate changes in random ways until the periodicity synchs again. There are so many variables. It is also possible that the polynyas are effects not causes, as it would take a fair amount of energy to melt that amount of ice and it could only come from the oceans but the paper says that the ocean water warms not cools. Send money for more research
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Post by Ratty on Sept 14, 2017 0:26:34 GMT
Does this help in proving that the science is settled? Don't all answer at once ......
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 14, 2017 16:19:43 GMT
Does this help in proving that the science is settled? Don't all answer at once ...... Did you get your wish? They state that these polynyas occur about every 75 years ... without data (in the article) of course. But then go on to say ... In 1974, satellite images revealed a 250,000 square kilometer (96,526 square mile) polynya in the Weddell Sea, south of South America, that persisted over three winters. Such expansive ice-free areas in the ocean surrounding Antarctica haven’t been seen – until a small polynya was observed last year.Last year would have been 43 years?? But OK, I can round that to 75.
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