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Post by sigurdur on Mar 25, 2013 18:00:42 GMT
Yes it is Karlox:
Codewacker: Folks don't want to pay "fair value" for food, dairy items. Have never figured out why someone pays a buck or more for a bottle/can of pop, and complains when milk is 3.50 a gallon.
At least with the milk you get nurishment. The results are very large factory style farms to provide that "inexpensive" product.
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Post by karlox on Mar 25, 2013 18:33:56 GMT
Yes it is Karlox: Codewacker: Folks don't want to pay "fair value" for food, dairy items. Have never figured out why someone pays a buck or more for a bottle/can of pop, and complains when milk is 3.50 a gallon. At least with the milk you get nurishment. The results are very large factory style farms to provide that "inexpensive" product. Perhaps one thing enhaces the other: industrial farming is one reason for the boost of world´s population growth? But as much more land is being needed, and food is BASICS from any point of view, plus LOTS of ´virtual´ capital aiming at safer long standing investments, such as farm-land... well, don´t like what I can almost see ahead of us, though experts should know the right figures and scenarios best than me...
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Post by AstroMet on Mar 25, 2013 21:27:05 GMT
Sorry Astromet, I do not doubt your cooling forecast but I am confused. "There really isn't much time, say another 3-4 years to really prepare, then there's another 2.5 years before we really begin to see it setting in for a good time (36 years) and that takes us to 2020-21." Will the cooling start in 2.5,3,4,5.5 or 6.5 years? Hi Neil, What people need to understand and to get is that they have a 100% linear view of the world. I do not. Time is also cyclical as much as linear, and it is the revolution of the Sun, Moon and planetary bodies that govern our planet's climate. These are the laws of physics and they do not change according to anyone's mere opinion or personal sensibilities. Each climate regime lasts 36 years. Now, I've written about this many times before on this board, despite idiots like glennkoks who obviously doesn't have all 52 cards in his deck. He's been told this many times by me; and his own behind will freeze too in the new climate regime I've forecasted, no matter how much he likes to blame humanity for something it cannot do - and that's change the planetary climate. Low brow shallow thinkers like that believe in climate fantasy, and are clueless about how the Earth's climate actually functions. So, they make things up, rant, act out and behave as if their ignorance is equal to knowledge and intelligence. It is not. These idiots think the climate turns itself on and off like a light-switch; but rarely do they actually mind the real global weather events that point to the climate regime now on its way. We are already seeing signs of this now, in these transition years from global warming to global cooling, for instance this -> en.apa.az/news_most_heavy_snowstorm_of_last_100_years_l_189939.htmlThese transition years are the waning years of global warming, toward global cooling. These are the 'extremes of weather' which is typical of transitional climate years from one regime to another. The next 3-4 years (2013-2017) is preparation time for global cooling, and that's not enough time to prep seeing all the laziness and ideology behind 'man-made global warming' ideology and crap that have wasted a good 25 years to dutifully prepare farmland and infrastructure to the changing climate to cooling. Then, after 2017, there's a 2.5-year period, to the year 2020, that sees the next big La Nina begin to build up, and this, under a new global cooling regime that officially begins in 2017 according to my calculations. The years from 2017 really see the first wave of the new global cooling regime begin to set in and by that time, it will be too late for those who waited to deal with the effect on the seasons, especially the autumn, winter and spring seasons, to acclimate. It - global cooling - will already be here. Now, by that time, when it has become obvious that the climate of our planet has become colder and wetter; you won't see a great majority of the AGW crybabies making amends for all their BS over the years, because they will be much too busy burning carbon to keep themselves warm. Wait, watch and see for yourself.
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Post by neilhamp on Mar 26, 2013 3:55:04 GMT
Thanks Astromet,
Its certainly the coldest March I have experienced here in the UK for many years I have planned an outdoor party for our Golden Wedding on July 13th. I hope the weather improves for that event.
Our trouble here in the UK is that all political parties think that the world is getting warmer and CO2 is the cause. Coal power stations are being closed and replaced by windmills and gas imported from Russia. This week our national gas supply fell to 1.5days. Heaven help us when the real cold arrives in a few years time.
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Post by karlox on Mar 26, 2013 8:03:05 GMT
Thanks Astromet, Its certainly the coldest March I have experienced here in the UK for many years I have planned an outdoor party for our Golden Wedding on July 13th. I hope the weather improves for that event. Our trouble here in the UK is that all political parties think that the world is getting warmer and CO2 is the cause. Coal power stations are being closed and replaced by windmills and gas imported from Russia. This week our national gas supply fell to 1.5days. Heaven help us when the real cold arrives in a few years time. But you have nukes and oil platform in Northern Sea? What about shale-gas possible deposits that could now be exploited? (recently learned Spain is speeding permits etc for exploiting this oil-gas now reachable; with some concern by locals and ecologist opposition, but we are bound to be North Dakota of Europe, some say)
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Post by AstroMet on Mar 26, 2013 13:41:55 GMT
Thanks Astromet, Its certainly the coldest March I have experienced here in the UK for many years I have planned an outdoor party for our Golden Wedding on July 13th. I hope the weather improves for that event. Our trouble here in the UK is that all political parties think that the world is getting warmer and CO2 is the cause. Coal power stations are being closed and replaced by windmills and gas imported from Russia. This week our national gas supply fell to 1.5days. Heaven help us when the real cold arrives in a few years time. Hi Neil, Another problem is the UK MET Office, which has stopped trying to do any seasonal forecasting since the 'barbecue summer' fiasco several years ago. This summer should be okay for you, wetter than usual, a cloudy summer actually, and you may see some rain that Friday night before July 13th, but it clears up enough by 11:00 a.m. through the afternoon, just make sure you have tarps for the night before to cover anything that could get wet. Overall, that Saturday, from 9:37 a.m. to about 5:49 p.m. you'll have clear enough skies to be outdoors. The weather is partly sunny with mix of clouds. By sunset at 9:05 p.m., might be a bit more of a chill in the air at that time in summer. The crescent Moon will be in tropical Virgo that day, so the weather is generally dry enough for an outdoor party, but mind the clouds rolling in by early evening, when you'll have to go indoors to avoid showers after sunset. Have a good time!
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Post by neilhamp on Mar 26, 2013 14:35:16 GMT
Thanks for the forecast Astromet. I hope it is more reliable than the Met.Office. We are hiring a marquee for the back garden so we should be OK.
I am hoping for success with the shale gas Karlox, but our planning laws here are very restrictive. Caudrilla (A USA company) is drilling about 50miles from here but the fracking has been already been delayed by 12 months to meet all the environmental constraints imposed by the government. A further 12 month delay has now been imposed.
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Post by glennkoks on Mar 26, 2013 15:29:50 GMT
neilhamp,
If done properly and proper precautions are taken to protect the water table fracking is perfectly safe.
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Post by glennkoks on Mar 26, 2013 17:31:03 GMT
neilhamp,
What part of the UK do you live in so I can see how astromet's forecast turns out?
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Post by glennkoks on Mar 26, 2013 17:33:38 GMT
neilhamp,
What part of the UK do you live in so I can see how astromet's forecast turns out?
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Post by neilhamp on Mar 26, 2013 18:59:17 GMT
Chester,England,July 13th. this year, but please don't take this as an invitation glennkoks
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Post by glennkoks on Mar 26, 2013 20:34:13 GMT
neilhamp,
Thanks, don't worry I wont crash your party. For verification reasons only!
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 29, 2013 3:49:44 GMT
Chester,England,July 13th. this year, but please don't take this as an invitation glennkoks Congratulations Neil. May the day be sunny, with floating high clouds. And warm.
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Post by nautonnier on Apr 1, 2013 2:11:35 GMT
Theodore, it seems like there is a level of agreement from Dr Abdussamatov Dr H Abdussamatov Director of Space Physics at the Polkovo Observatory St Petersburg and Russian Director of the International Space Station gives clear evidence of the rapidly declining short range 11 year solar cycle and the longer range bicennential component of the Total Solar Irradiance(TSI). This decline is not compensated by a decrease to space of the earth thermal energy. This will lead inexorably to the start of a new Little Ice Age. This decline will last well into the 22nd century. There will be no more global warming this century. scientificqa.blogspot.com/2013/03/new-ice-age-fast-approaching.html
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 1, 2013 3:30:31 GMT
The cooling trend of the Pacific continues. Looks like it is going to be dry in the Lower Great Plains area as the water temp of the moisture feed is still declining when it should have been increasing.
Also, west side of SA, the pool of cold water is expanding for another run at La Nina.
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