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Post by nautonnier on May 6, 2013 1:03:59 GMT
I read a blog today from UK suggesting pianos with missing wires be put outside political party headquarters with names of politicians taped to nearby lamp posts. I do not believe it was in jest. When the general public realize that much of these problems were brought on them by 'energy prices necessarily skyrocketing' as they have in UK - and that global warming is a politicized myth - it will not be pretty.
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Post by karlox on May 6, 2013 7:50:27 GMT
I read a blog today from UK suggesting pianos with missing wires be put outside political party headquarters with names of politicians taped to nearby lamp posts. I do not believe it was in jest. When the general public realize that much of these problems were brought on them by 'energy prices necessarily skyrocketing' as they have in UK - and that global warming is a politicized myth - it will not be pretty. Remember it was Banking System and Finantial sector what went broke and billions had to be poured into the system for asisted breathing that still persists. UK´s Pound got a maneouvering margin much larger than mis-born Euro, yet they´r failing as well... All this mad nonsense Energy Policies being applied plus rising taxes and cost is an additional factor for further empoverishment of low and middle classes; but if I had to put just one BIG BLAME ans SHAME would put it on the Global Banking-Finantial System Complex , which was enlarged and reinforced during past most recent decades, with good help from polititians side, and being rescued by taxpayers and now States got their Debt...
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Post by nautonnier on May 11, 2013 1:45:41 GMT
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Post by cuttydyer on May 11, 2013 6:23:21 GMT
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Post by karlox on May 11, 2013 10:46:34 GMT
Perhaps you´ve noticed that our Debt related to GNP is still below 100% (from 40-60% only 5 years ago). Italy and many others´ got worst figures. Big problem comes when you consider households (families) and private Company´s debt. Though written in Spanish take a look at this article´s four charts on Public and Private debt evolution and comparison with other countries. You´ll see what I mean... the Spanish debt in four graphicsWhat is happening is that all this private debt eventually gets ´socialised´ and finally the Kingdom of Spain is getting responsible for payments to foreigns banks and finantial institutions... millions still keep on paying their loans for their homes to the banks while their houses are nowadays worth half the actual money they owe... so all these millions indebted families are in fact sustaining our banking system, many of them getting their monthly allowance for their bank from Grandma´s pension as the rest of the family is either being under-employed or unemployed. As GNP decreases with the depressed economy (higher taxes, salary cuts, companies going broke) relation figures between total Debt and GNP keeps growing... dead spiral... What we would badly need is to further reduce interest rates paid to lenders by our government bonds and debt so interest paid wouldn´t account for as much as all the spending cuts and suffering. That sense we are somehow better off now than one year ago,.. but markets are unpredictable and there are too many scenarios in which interest might resume a dramatic climb. If so we are broke. Notice in fourth chart of the article we are ´theorically´not that bad compared to Greece, Italy, France, USA, Germany and UK!! So either figures are tricky or we are missing something?
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Post by nautonnier on May 11, 2013 10:53:17 GMT
Perhaps you´ve noticed that our Debt related to GNP is still below 100% (from 40-60% only 5 years ago). Italy and many others´ got worst figures. Big problem comes when you consider households (families) and private Company´s debt. Though written in Spanish take a look at this article´s four charts on Public and Private debt evolution and comparison with other countries. You´ll see what I mean... the Spanish debt in four graphicsWhat is happening is that all this private debt eventually gets ´socialised´ and finally the Kingdom of Spain is getting responsible for payments to foreigns banks and finantial institutions... millions still keep on paying their loans for their homes to the banks while their houses are nowadays worth half the actual money they owe... so all these millions indebted families are in fact sustaining our banking system, many of them getting their monthly allowance for their bank from Grandma´s pension as the rest of the family is either being under-employed or unemployed. As GNP decreases with the depressed economy (higher taxes, salary cuts, companies going broke) relation figures between total Debt and GNP keeps growing... dead spiral... What we would badly need is to further reduce interest rates paid to lenders by our government bonds and debt so interest paid wouldn´t account for as much as all the spending cuts and suffering. That sense we are somehow better off now than one year ago,.. but markets are unpredictable and there are too many scenarios in which interest might resume a dramatic climb. If so we are broke. Notice in fourth chart of the article we are ´theorically´not that bad compared to Greece, Italy, France, USA, Germany and UK!! So either figures are tricky or we are missing something? I get the feeling that nobody knows if they are missing something. Italy has a similar problem with 'private debt' as well as a worse position with public debt. France's banks are only solvent if the Greek banks pay back their loans The entire world seems to be walking along a cliff edge just waiting for something to push it over.
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Post by karlox on May 11, 2013 10:54:47 GMT
As for Barcelona and Catalunya bearing one of the most expansive public sector and unjustified spendings -crony capitalism supported by nationalistic parties- what is happening is that they have got a good flag to hang out and put the blame on someone else (oppressive Kingdom of Spain, by instance). That is how Hitler got to power...
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Post by sigurdur on May 11, 2013 18:52:07 GMT
Ya think Greece is bad? ?? Look at the Netherlands. Total debt, public private, is 256% of GDP. NO WAY are they going to come out of this one. They are busted even worse than Britain. And they call some countries poor because they do not owe massive amounts of money....uh huhhhhhhh.
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Post by karlox on May 12, 2013 20:01:34 GMT
Ya think Greece is bad? ?? Look at the Netherlands. Total debt, public private, is 256% of GDP. NO WAY are they going to come out of this one. They are busted even worse than Britain. And they call some countries poor because they do not owe massive amounts of money....uh huhhhhhhh. I´ve just learned that Netherland´s Antilles fiscal paradise was in fact created and enhaced during WWII to prevent Hitler from appropriation of country´s wealth/capital... for sure richest netherlanders won´t get caught nowadays either.
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Post by cuttydyer on May 23, 2013 15:00:39 GMT
European Electricity Prices:
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Post by trbixler on May 23, 2013 16:16:45 GMT
Buried in the education system is a time bomb of beliefs. "Dewey's general assessment of the Stalinist Russia he claims to have encountered is unabashedly positive, not to say romantic. Here is a very typical example: But since the clamor of economic emphasis, coming... from both defenders and enemies of the Bolshevik scheme, may have confused others as it certainly confused me, I can hardly do better than record the impression, as overwhelming as it was unexpected, that the outstanding fact in Russia is a revolution, involving the release of human powers on such an unprecedented scale that it is of incalculable significance not only for that country, but for the world. [p. 15] Note the peculiar effect of combining the most understated, non-judgmental language to describe a murderous dictatorship ("the Bolshevik scheme") with the most unobjective hyperbole ("overwhelming," "unprecedented," "incalculable") to describe something as abstract and speculative as "the release of human powers" under communism. This passage, and indeed the entire document, written by a sixty-nine year old eminent intellectual, reads like the silly postcard effusions of a ten-year-old girl on her first trip to Disneyland. Furthermore, notice Dewey's expression of surprise at the disparity between the Russia he claims to have encountered and the one he supposedly expected to find. Knowing that he is writing for American readers inclined to disapprove of the Soviet dictatorship, Dewey carefully peppers his reminiscences with expressions of shock. The pretense that he never expected to find Russia so wonderfully transformed by communism is this lifelong leftist's cynical reversal of Socratic irony -- his feigned wide-eyed innocence is intended to entrap the unsuspecting reader in naïve acquiescence to irrationalism." link
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Post by nautonnier on May 23, 2013 17:20:59 GMT
Buried in the education system is a time bomb of beliefs. "Dewey's general assessment of the Stalinist Russia he claims to have encountered is unabashedly positive, not to say romantic. Here is a very typical example: But since the clamor of economic emphasis, coming... from both defenders and enemies of the Bolshevik scheme, may have confused others as it certainly confused me, I can hardly do better than record the impression, as overwhelming as it was unexpected, that the outstanding fact in Russia is a revolution, involving the release of human powers on such an unprecedented scale that it is of incalculable significance not only for that country, but for the world. [p. 15] Note the peculiar effect of combining the most understated, non-judgmental language to describe a murderous dictatorship ("the Bolshevik scheme") with the most unobjective hyperbole ("overwhelming," "unprecedented," "incalculable") to describe something as abstract and speculative as "the release of human powers" under communism. This passage, and indeed the entire document, written by a sixty-nine year old eminent intellectual, reads like the silly postcard effusions of a ten-year-old girl on her first trip to Disneyland. Furthermore, notice Dewey's expression of surprise at the disparity between the Russia he claims to have encountered and the one he supposedly expected to find. Knowing that he is writing for American readers inclined to disapprove of the Soviet dictatorship, Dewey carefully peppers his reminiscences with expressions of shock. The pretense that he never expected to find Russia so wonderfully transformed by communism is this lifelong leftist's cynical reversal of Socratic irony -- his feigned wide-eyed innocence is intended to entrap the unsuspecting reader in naïve acquiescence to irrationalism." linkThere are similar articles on Mao by apologists One has to wonder what their motive is
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Post by trbixler on May 23, 2013 17:53:03 GMT
Lots of dead bodies with no one left to claim them.
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Post by karlox on May 23, 2013 18:54:23 GMT
Russia is Europe, our neighbours, but unless a sharp turn in Russian´s policies takes place, I do care and fear a lot about our growing dependency from their energetic sources specially. Democracy can´t benefit from such authoritarians Regimes playing crony capitalism...
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Post by trbixler on May 23, 2013 22:45:34 GMT
Russia is Europe, our neighbours, but unless a sharp turn in Russian´s policies takes place, I do care and fear a lot about our growing dependency from their energetic sources specially. Democracy can´t benefit from such authoritarians Regimes playing crony capitalism... Crony capitalism? Try rule by dictatorial force! Nothing at all capitalistic about a dictatorship. Do as I say or you will die and all that was yours is mine. The only reason you might be left alive is you may have some value to me.
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