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Post by missouriboy on Jan 7, 2018 10:33:12 GMT
I'm blocked. For those interested, read www.breadandbutterscience.com/Weather.pdf for period 1875 to 1879 and 1885 to 1890 ... the periods I mentioned of solar minimum between solar cycles 11 and 12 and 12 and 13. If these are as Joe Bastardi says our analogs for what we might expect in the next few years then hold onto your butts. Al Gore's comment about a field trip through the Book of Revelations might be right for all the wrong reasons. in addition to other extremes of weather, extensive droughts are noted throughout the world ... this for China, Six-million out of the population of 56 million in northern China starved to death in 1877. There is in China no mountain range of sufficient altitude or importance to determine the northern limit of the summer monsoon. During the year 1877, the monsoon could scarcely reach the valley of the Yangtsze; and in consequence central and southern China was drenched with excessive rain, while not a drop fell in the parched and famine stricken provinces of Chihli and Shansi.
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 7, 2018 11:06:04 GMT
I'm blocked. For those interested, read www.breadandbutterscience.com/Weather.pdf for period 1875 to 1879 and 1885 to 1890 ... the periods I mentioned of solar minimum between solar cycles 11 and 12 and 12 and 13. If these are as Joe Bastardi says our analogs for what we might expect in the next few years then hold onto your butts. Al Gore's comment about a field trip through the Book of Revelations might be right for all the wrong reasons. in addition to other extremes of weather, extensive droughts are noted throughout the world ... this for China, Six-million out of the population of 56 million in northern China starved to death in 1877. There is in China no mountain range of sufficient altitude or importance to determine the northern limit of the summer monsoon. During the year 1877, the monsoon could scarcely reach the valley of the Yangtsze; and in consequence central and southern China was drenched with excessive rain, while not a drop fell in the parched and famine stricken provinces of Chihli and Shansi.
I have a feeling that we are closer to the 1300's which is a little before the solar cycles that we use as analogues. If the weather does follow the 1300's then we are in a lot of trouble.
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Post by Ratty on Jan 7, 2018 12:22:07 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 7, 2018 12:30:49 GMT
That kind of quote goes down well with war widows.
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Post by Ratty on Jan 7, 2018 12:31:42 GMT
That kind of quote goes down well with war widows. He wasn't talking about widows.
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 7, 2018 14:59:32 GMT
That kind of quote goes down well with war widows. He wasn't talking about widows. He was talking about "single mothers" with no qualification on what he meant. The legislation he was proposing would also have no qualification on what was meant. All of a sudden a widow has all her state support withdrawn as she is a 'single mother'.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 7, 2018 18:58:47 GMT
I'm blocked. For those interested, read www.breadandbutterscience.com/Weather.pdf for period 1875 to 1879 and 1885 to 1890 ... the periods I mentioned of solar minimum between solar cycles 11 and 12 and 12 and 13. If these are as Joe Bastardi says our analogs for what we might expect in the next few years then hold onto your butts. Al Gore's comment about a field trip through the Book of Revelations might be right for all the wrong reasons. in addition to other extremes of weather, extensive droughts are noted throughout the world ... this for China, Six-million out of the population of 56 million in northern China starved to death in 1877. There is in China no mountain range of sufficient altitude or importance to determine the northern limit of the summer monsoon. During the year 1877, the monsoon could scarcely reach the valley of the Yangtsze; and in consequence central and southern China was drenched with excessive rain, while not a drop fell in the parched and famine stricken provinces of Chihli and Shansi.
I have a feeling that we are closer to the 1300's which is a little before the solar cycles that we use as analogues. If the weather does follow the 1300's then we are in a lot of trouble. We shall see ... at least those of us that live that long. Reading through the descriptions of weather events for the stated periods I was impressed not so much with the winters, although there were many cold ones, but the extremes in the growing season. I also noticed what appeared to be an increase in hurricanes in years when the number of spotless days first surged. Think 2005 and 2017 in the US ... same positioning. These are not of course a rigorous quantitative analysis.
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Post by Ratty on Jan 7, 2018 23:41:14 GMT
He wasn't talking about widows. He was talking about "single mothers" with no qualification on what he meant. The legislation he was proposing would also have no qualification on what was meant. All of a sudden a widow has all her state support withdrawn as she is a 'single mother'. I realise it was an open-ended statement but, in the Australian context, he would have been referring to "single" and never married or having any intention of marrying, often with children to different fathers. It would be a minefield politically and to legislate. We have very generous family benefits and child allowances in Australia: www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/subjects/payments-familiesNothing to do with the Sun.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 8, 2018 2:06:46 GMT
He was talking about "single mothers" with no qualification on what he meant. The legislation he was proposing would also have no qualification on what was meant. All of a sudden a widow has all her state support withdrawn as she is a 'single mother'. I realise it was an open-ended statement but, in the Australian context, he would have been referring to "single" and never married or having any intention of marrying, often with children to different fathers. It would be a minefield politically and to legislate. We have very generous family benefits and child allowances in Australia: www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/subjects/payments-familiesNothing to do with the Sun. Depends on how you spell it ... sun son.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 11, 2018 18:12:37 GMT
Now, as an American, I don't know nothin about Boris Johnson. Only what I read in the media. And we all know what that means ... absolutely nothin. You cousins would know him better than me ... and perhaps he is a "hogwart" as some would proclaim or an opportunist or whatever. But when I see a letter like this it makes me wonder why more of our politicians (over here and elsewhere) couldn't be a little more open minded. Perhaps he's playing to a perceived future constituency ... and perhaps he's hedging a bit. But at least he seems to be thinking. And I mark up at least one on my chalk board for that "novel" political endeavor. But I'm just a Celtic rebel from the heart of the Missouri "wasteland". I also think that the middle names of his children are ... how shall we say it? Interesting! (Google search - brief biography) www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/9814618/Its-snowing-and-it-really-feels-like-the-start-of-a-mini-ice-age.html
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Post by sigurdur on Jan 11, 2018 18:56:02 GMT
breadandbutterscience.com/GMDPP.pdf
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Post by acidohm on Jan 11, 2018 20:16:17 GMT
Now, as an American, I don't know nothin about Boris Johnson. Only what I read in the media. And we all know what that means ... absolutely nothin. You cousins would know him better than me ... and perhaps he is a "hogwart" as some would proclaim or an opportunist or whatever. But when I see a letter like this it makes me wonder why more of our politicians (over here and elsewhere) couldn't be a little more open minded. Perhaps he's playing to a perceived future constituency ... and perhaps he's hedging a bit. But at least he seems to be thinking. And I mark up at least one on my chalk board for that "novel" political endeavor. But I'm just a Celtic rebel from the heart of the Missouri "wasteland". I also think that the middle names of his children are ... how shall we say it? Interesting! (Google search - brief biography) www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/9814618/Its-snowing-and-it-really-feels-like-the-start-of-a-mini-ice-age.htmlI Walked past him once, back when he was editor at the Spectator magazine (my courier office was just round the corner from his). I looked at him and my face must've betrayed my recognition because as he looked up and saw me, he gave me this kinda foppish awkward smile. I just found he came across as a nice guy and have thought that ever since. He was Mayor of London while I lived there and often sort of made a fool of himself with media mistakes or whatever, but the place did ok and modernised it in the time I was there (2000-2009). Since he nearly became prime minister and does alright on the cabinet. He always seems to be a step from doing a Duke of Edinburgh' while doing credible work and having value in his position. Of course, I could have it all wrong, I'm not really into politics.....though I do know Piers is Jeremy Corbyns brother..... I might add, I didn't initially realise this article was from 2013.....though what, and how he describes those years is exactly why, once I realised the sun is not an consistant beast, I started looking into all this....
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Post by Ratty on Jan 11, 2018 23:54:46 GMT
I prefer politicians who 'do things' and are prepared to 'say things' that might not align precisely with the party line. I prefer them to the mealy mouthed 'do nothing' robotic lot that are all committees, think tanks, discussion groups, sound bites, etc.
Johnson V. May and Trump V. Obama are no contests in my book.
...... but I could be wrong.
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Post by acidohm on Jan 14, 2018 12:28:32 GMT
Something I saw somewhere, and the last 2 spots seem similar..cycle 24 spots should be nearer the equator, as in the butterfly pattern. Spots nearer the pole, as in the last 2, (and at least one previously which produced the article in question) are the first spots of the cycle 25?? www.stce.be/node/359Here...no idea as to validity of this 🤔
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 14, 2018 14:37:40 GMT
Something I saw somewhere, and the last 2 spots seem similar..cycle 24 spots should be nearer the equator, as in the butterfly pattern. Spots nearer the pole, as in the last 2, (and at least one previously which produced the article in question) are the first spots of the cycle 25?? www.stce.be/node/359Here...no idea as to validity of this 🤔 From (August) the guy with the difficult accent. www.gavsweathervids.com/sc24-25.html
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