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Post by sigurdur on Jul 3, 2014 3:51:09 GMT
California's current drought is not as bad as previous droughts. What has changed is the diversion of water from ag to cities. And a large supply of water that normally went to AG in the Central Valley now goes to keep some little fish alive. If memory serves me, 300,000 acre feet of water has been diverted. California is a large vegg growing area, but it isn't the only vegg growing area. Thanks Sig, I did suspect that historical normal events are being labelled as something else. Now THAT has never happened before! Would I be right in guessing that investment in infrastructure for water treatment/distribution has not kept pace with industrial and domestic, let alone agricultural, need? Zaphod: You would be 100% correct, however, the larger problem is California has about exhausted all available water rights within 1,000 miles. The cities continue to need/use water, the delta smelt need huge amounts of flow, so the Central Valley Ag sector is the easiest to cut out. And as anyone familiar with the history of the area knows, California has been in a wet cycle. Going back to a more normal rainfall patter isn't what they are hoping for. California benefited from climate change, now that it continues to change back to historical norms the sky is falling in.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 3, 2014 16:13:04 GMT
Code: When that happens, a pineapple express of duration, that will be climate change too.
Even tho it has happened in the past.
About 100 years ago, the Central Valley had 20' of water in it after one of those pineapple expresses.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 3, 2014 17:25:58 GMT
Sunshine today. C4 crops really growing
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 4, 2014 14:11:40 GMT
The forecast has changed, as is to be expected. July 4th, in the upper Great Plains is almost always a day of thunderstorms, wild weather etc. Today appears, based on current forecast models, to be no exception.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 4, 2014 18:56:43 GMT
Ok, we had our "normal" thunderstorm roll through. Some hail and heavy rain.
Have a great 4th Everyone.
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Post by Ratty on Jul 13, 2014 1:36:53 GMT
I wonder if John Cook was involved?
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 13, 2014 2:41:53 GMT
Code: Ref study #1. When folks are doing these types of studies, the never mention quantity produced. Prior to N,P and K, as major nutrients, yields of wheat per acre were considered fantastic at 25 bushels per acre. Today that is a disaster.
Another example is potatoes. Potatoes grown organically produce about 50 hundred weight per acre. Potatoes grown using all tech produce 300-800 hundred weight (cwt) per acre.
Another item in regards to organic. When you haul P/K off a field via production, it has to come from somewhere. Keep hauling it off without replacement, and pretty soon you have a field that looks like the Sahara Desert. Organic matter drops like a rock, microbial activity drops etc. One of the reasons that carpet bag farmers are hated. They usually are intent on mining the soil, and have no regard to actual soil health.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 13, 2014 2:48:43 GMT
Also, and this is troubling, this study is a study of studies. It involves no direct field research.
It is like the study that showed that increased wheat yields, because of higher co2, had less protein content. And that was true, but what most didn't understand is that the author of that study did NOT fertilize for the higher yield. Protein in a reflection of nitrogen availability to a wheat plant. Increase yield, and don't supply the required N, and you are going to have lower protein.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 16, 2014 12:53:19 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 16, 2014 13:15:30 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 11, 2014 22:21:17 GMT
He has no clue what he is doing.
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 12, 2014 14:58:23 GMT
He has no clue what he is doing. Sig, On the contrary, he knows very well what he is doing - he is following the UN Agenda 21, with a 'Common Purpose'. The people losing out here are the small farmers, because they are the people that are intended to be damaged by this. See Agenda 21 Targets Family Farms and Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack. This is all linked in to EPA declaring that muddy area in the middle of one of your fields a ' protected wetland'. This is all carefully scripted.
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 12, 2014 17:39:26 GMT
This from a state that considered the idea that it alone, the state, owned the rain. Washington State actually considered declaring that the state owned the rain and individuals were not allowed to contain, retain, or utilize such. The state also wants me to voluntarily notify and then pay the state for losses of tax revenue any time I make a purchase out of state where the tax rate is lower then what I would pay in my own state. That statement is 100% true and factual and was told to me on the phone while I discussed the tax ramifications of a large purchase made via the internet and then shipped to me. I was told that the only reason they don't go after people who make purchases out of state, for example in Oregon which has no sales tax, is a lack of enforcement people. So if I buy a fishing rod in Idaho and I pay less in tax than I would back home the state of Washington wants me to voluntarily send to them a check for the difference in the tax rates. That is Agenda21 chapter 18 "Protection of the Quality and Supply of Freshwater Resources: Application of Integrated Approaches to the Development, Management ."At least your Governor is following his script.
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 12, 2014 23:02:29 GMT
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Post by van on Aug 14, 2014 12:44:43 GMT
SIG I went to CANDO ND this past June and noticed that Devils lake is now up to the road and they are currently raising the road bed on US 2. Also several towns in that region have been abandoned due to them being under water att. Also noticed a lot of fields either not planted or doing poorly due to standing water. What is the water situation like in your part of ND.
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