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Post by sigurdur on Mar 15, 2014 1:55:55 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 15, 2014 1:58:48 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 15, 2014 2:09:08 GMT
Sea ice area today is 12.88
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Post by karlox on Mar 15, 2014 7:52:40 GMT
First Bet gets double-price if right?
Mine: 3.5 million sq-km and for free: a moderate EL NIÑO starting late summer-automn (You´re welcome Sig!)
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Post by duwayne on Mar 15, 2014 15:17:12 GMT
Is there a link which gives the historical daily ice values in tabular form?
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 15, 2014 19:55:11 GMT
Is there a link which gives the historical daily ice values in tabular form? I haven't looked that close at Arctic Ice so I don't know of one. I do know that there are some ftp files. |
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 15, 2014 19:56:32 GMT
Ok.....I am at 3.1 with a bias it could be lower. I think the Fram is going to be one hell of an exit gate later this summer.
The main thing that could prove me wrong is that there is a bit of colder water showing up west of Norway, and the pool to the SW is a tad on the cool order as well.
But we still have time to change our votes depending on how things look closer to the poll lock date.
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 15, 2014 20:17:33 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 15, 2014 20:34:49 GMT
I will be an outlier - as I think that there is too much cold about and the North Atlantic drift looks a little wimpish, the only reason that ice could be low is winds and with the meridonal jets that is unforcastable.
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Post by icefisher on Mar 16, 2014 0:39:36 GMT
I am a little confused. Are we talking about AREA instead of EXTENT this year? And Sig you have linked us to a Cryosphere (u of ill) table for ice AREA. There is a typo in the title that suggest we are talking about ice AREA. Most other years we have used JAXA EXTENT for the poll and the range of choices fits that data better with 2012 being the record at about 3.1 and 2009 being the highest since 2007 at a little over 5.0. For arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/arctic.sea.ice.interactive.html 2012 was about 900,000 km less than the lowest figure available in the chart. And 2007,2008,2010,2011,and 2012 were all less than 3.1km. The lowest choice in the survey is for 2014 to come in sixth place for lowest ice area. |
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 16, 2014 1:15:42 GMT
Yes, area icefisher.
I did this for 2 reasons:
To keep people on their toes.....which you are.
And to just shake it up a bit.
I guess I can change the poll to lower numbers, but I don't think it is going to be much lower than 3.1, is why I used 3.1 as the lower end of the range.
Also, when looking at different metrics, seems like area is in more agreement than extent.
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 16, 2014 1:20:20 GMT
Ok......seems I can't edit the poll. Might have to do another page if you think 3.1 isn't low enough.
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Post by duwayne on Mar 16, 2014 15:49:26 GMT
The JAXA historical daily extent data (updated daily) can be found here. I can't find daily historical data tables for Cryosphere. |
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