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Post by nonentropic on Apr 8, 2015 9:37:28 GMT
Anybody been to Ephesus from what I have read there has been no lift in the ground around there but the water level is way down or they were building wharves for very very large ships. i don't think the sea level has been static for 4000 years.
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Post by nautonnier on Apr 25, 2016 11:57:50 GMT
I thought I would resurrect this with a new find from Steve Goddard: " Sea level in the San Francisco Bay is 9 inches lower now than it was 75 years ago. Experts say we will drown."
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Post by missouriboy on May 20, 2016 17:43:10 GMT
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Post by fredzl4dh on May 21, 2016 11:38:00 GMT
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Post by fredzl4dh on May 21, 2016 11:42:20 GMT
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Post by fredzl4dh on May 21, 2016 11:45:21 GMT
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Post by Ratty on May 21, 2016 11:50:16 GMT
Yes. Got it Fred.
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Post by icefisher on May 22, 2016 4:52:49 GMT
Its never been widely believed that the Clovis culture which supposedly traveled south from the Bering Strait land bridge through a gap in retreating ice sheets east of the Rocky Mountains was the "first human settlement". The argument has always been that these people were the first "widespread" culture, whatever that means. Its been long established that the Pacific Coast was inhabited a couple thousand years earlier and european and south american anthropologists have argued that these people were widespread including in Brazil and Chili. No doubt there is an element in the science community that considers all this as Clovis Denial!
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Post by acidohm on May 22, 2016 6:08:49 GMT
Its interesting that people managed to cross the Bering Strait land bridge at a time when it must have still been an incredibly hostile place for human existence. The crossing must have been made with no thought as to there being a 'better place' further on as how could there possibly have been any kind of reference for this?? The Clovis people must have been seriously tough people!! And these are probably their descendants, it appears the Far North has been well populated for a millennia, there biggest threat came from the Russians who used the Cossacks to kill all the men and enslave the women and children of any indigenous population they came across, but there are still 40 or so distinct peoples in this inhospitable region today en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_small-numbered_peoples_of_the_North,_Siberia_and_the_Far_East As a comparison, the first European explorers arrived at the sea of Okhotsk in 1640 and the area was settled in 1800's!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_OkhotskApparently the locals gave the original settlers a hard time by burning their buildings, but in true European fashion they were ultimately done for! "The natives were Lamuts, a branch of the Tungus who are now called Evens. Like most coastal Siberians, they were reindeer herders in the interior with a few semi-sedentary fishers and sealers along the coast. They had some metallurgy. On both sides of Penzhina Bay were the Koryaks. They were economically similar to the Lamuts, but more warlike. The Lamuts were subdued by the 1690s and the Koryaks much later. In Russian times a number of Yakuts came down to the coast." Hokkaido forms the southern most part of the seas external ring of volcanic islands. However there is no mention anywhere of their interest in the area, it appears the Japanese did not venture North of their territory in any meaningful way....although Sakhalin island in the south of the Okotsk sea was settled and disputed with China and Russia who ultimately claimed the area en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalinen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_NorthThe Russians gave anyone who worked in the Far North a northern bonus, extra money, housing etc. " Russian Labor Code. According to the List, the Extreme North territories will be subdivided into two categories: "zone of extreme discomfort" and "zone of absolute discomfort". " Bearing in mind the above region accounts for about half of the Russian land mass, and that parts of Northern Europe are not that far south in latitude, just warmed by the gulf stream!
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Post by fredzl4dh on May 22, 2016 13:12:23 GMT
Yes. Got it Fred. My browser keeps crashing when i create a post so i did not know i had posted lol but got the message across.
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 2, 2016 17:35:41 GMT
climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/Sea level rise is caused primarily by two factors related to global warming: the added water from melting land ice and the expansion of sea water as it warms. The first chart tracks the change in sea level since 1993 as observed by satellites.
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 3, 2016 10:54:40 GMT
climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/Sea level rise is caused primarily by two factors related to global warming: the added water from melting land ice and the expansion of sea water as it warms. The first chart tracks the change in sea level since 1993 as observed by satellites. This is all assuming that the volume of the ocean basins themselves are static, and that is not the case. Chains of volcanoes are growing along the mid-ocean ridges and huge amounts of silt are continually pouring into the oceans from the land causing significant layers of sediment.
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Post by Ratty on Jun 3, 2016 12:59:31 GMT
[ Snip ] This is all assuming that the volume of the ocean basins themselves are static, and that is not the case. Chains of volcanoes are growing along the mid-ocean ridges and huge amounts of silt are continually pouring into the oceans from the land causing significant layers of sediment. Exactly, and don't forget space dust ....... from NASA:
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Post by douglavers on Jun 4, 2016 5:26:40 GMT
Ratty
100 tons per day is about 20 cubic metres per day, assuming a density of about five.
It would take many milennia for that rate of input to be measurable.
However a big asteroid ............................
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Post by Ratty on Jun 4, 2016 8:17:13 GMT
Ratty 100 tons per day is about 20 cubic metres per day, assuming a density of about five. It would take many milennia for that rate of input to be measurable. However a big asteroid ............................ It does mount up over time Doug. I vacuum nearly every day ......
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