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Post by magellan on Oct 24, 2014 1:34:22 GMT
Is this Obama's fault? The oil boogie man is now the Ebola boogie man? www.wnd.com/2014/10/obama-brings-in-1900-people-from-another-ebola-nation/The dumbass installs a political hack as "Ebola czar" to do what? How's the Keystone pipeline going? I suppose you don't think he's responsible for the tens of thousands of coal miners losing their jobs either, even when he said his plan was to bankrupt coal companies.
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Post by glennkoks on Oct 24, 2014 1:46:11 GMT
Do you think that natural gas at 3.67 an MCF has anything to do with bankrupting coal companies? Natural Gas is 5 times cleaner than coal and it's cheaper. The shale plays have glutted the U.S. market with light sweet and oil is down to 81.00 a barrel. But Obama is the oil boogie man? The get your guns boogie man etc...
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Post by douglavers on Oct 24, 2014 6:00:31 GMT
I keep wondering how soon ebola will show up in China, India, or South America.
With the possible exception of China, I do not see how the disease could be contained in those countries.
It is incomprehensible to me why a more or less complete air travel ban has not been imposed. Arguing that there are other methods of entry is stupid - pretty well all the potential sufferers would have gone ill before those routes could be used.
The argument about human rights does not apply in this case - unexposed populations have a right to be protected. Probably explains why a number of African countries have applied these restrictions.
I gather it was only the personal heroism of a small group of doctors in Lagos which prevented an outbreak in Nigeria.
There is no defense against stupidity.
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 24, 2014 8:20:44 GMT
The dumbass installs a political hack as "Ebola czar" to do what? I don't think people realize that for the progressives everything that happens is political and they have next to no interest or skill in anything else. Literally everything is seen and dealt with as a political issue - " How many votes will this lose/gain us at the next election?". Save the lives of several thousand in Iraq? We said we were withdrawing from Iraq we can't go back we have to let them die..... There is a huge outcry we have to do something - do a few air strikes show it on TV - how many votes will we lose for that - we could gain votes call you a wartime president - etc etc. They give as much thought to the thousands being beheaded raped and tortured as they did to Ambassador Stevens. So along comes Ebola. It's not how can we ensure that the population of the US is safe, it is how can we turn this into votes and not lose votes. So a White House hack is the obvious choice over a skilled Epidemiologist who has worked in epidemic protection. After all there may be more votes in letting the disease spread and then rising to the challenge. Note that the 'no boots on the ground' was waived with sending thousands including such medically adept troops as the 101st Airborne, to Ebola hotspots. There may be votes in that. Winning the next election is ALL they care about, gerrymandering and playing with regulations in the background is far more important than Iran getting nukes, unless that affects votes of course. It is a case of: If you only have a hammer, everything needs pounding.
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Post by scpg02 on Oct 24, 2014 19:03:56 GMT
Why am I not surprised?
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 25, 2014 0:54:21 GMT
If they had stayed taking photos they would have got the one of the police pulling their gloves off their fingers with their teeth.
Stupidity is universal even when it leads to death.
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Oct 28, 2014 2:53:11 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 28, 2014 2:53:11 GMT
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Post by douglavers on Oct 31, 2014 20:13:55 GMT
Article in The Australian today. It does not fill me with the joys of Spring.
"WHILE nations with sophisticated health networks debate the merits of mandatory quarantine and whether to place temporary bans on passengers flying in from West Africa, Asian nations are bracing for the worst, with some experts saying an outbreak of Ebola in the region is almost inevitable. With at least 13,000 cases of the acute illness and 4900 deaths so far, Ebola has afflicted Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea in West Africa. The prospect of Ebola striking Asia’s least-developed cities has galvanised medical specialists, many of who remember how quickly the respiratory virus SARS rocketed through Asia 11 years ago, leaving an eventual worldwide death toll of 774. Epidemiologist and infectious diseases expert Professor Mike Toole, deputy director of Australia’s Burnet Institute, says poorer nations near Australia — including East Timor and Papua New Guinea — would find dealing with an Ebola outbreak extremely challenging. “How would PNG cope? It’s the same as asking how Sierra Leone would cope,” he tells Inquirer. PNG, he points out, has six doctors for every 100,000 people; roughly 400 doctors in total, only slightly better than the patient-doctor ratio in Liberia and Sierra Leone. All bar 50 of the doctors are in the capital, Port Moresby. An Ebola outbreak there could easily evolve into a health disaster of enormous proportions. The similarity of Ebola symptoms to those of malaria and typhoid fever makes the epidemic response even more difficult. A group of health academics writing in The Lancet medical journal recently concluded that an average of nearly three people infected with the lethal virus would fly out of the three worst-hit African nations every month on commercial flights, and the number would increase. The authors recommended screening passengers departing from Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone for fever and Ebola contact. Led by Toronto University infectious diseases expert Dr Kamran Khan, the authors warned that effective departure screening was essential and urgent. Ebola-carriers can be fever-free for days while the virus incubates in their bodies. Infected passengers have already slipped through the net and arrived in the US."
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Post by douglavers on Oct 31, 2014 23:59:06 GMT
From the BBC:
"A judge in the US has ruled in favour of a nurse fighting a state quarantine order since returning from treating Ebola patients in West Africa.
Judge Charles LaVerdiere ruled Kaci Hickox did not need to be isolated or restricted in her movements because she is not showing symptoms of the virus."
We had better really, really hope that asymptomatic is the same as non-infective.
As it is, my view is that the consequences of the ruling could be horrific.
Does this mean that the authorities can not compulsorily quarantine anyone who has been in contact with a victim but who is not showing symptoms?
How are infection chains to be stopped?
There is no defense against stupidity.
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Post by slh1234 on Nov 1, 2014 1:25:58 GMT
The possibility of quarantine is certainly being discussed seriously in Korea right now.
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Post by sigurdur on Nov 1, 2014 1:35:29 GMT
The possibility of quarantine is certainly being discussed seriously in Korea right now. As it should be. That is the way only defense.
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