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Post by scpg02 on Nov 22, 2014 15:55:38 GMT
Visiting the Pacific northwest should be on your bucket list. I can't afford a bucket .... sigh. I hear that. Not having a pot to piss in was the definition of poor at one point. The poor used to save the contents of their chamber pots and sell it to the tanners. If you were really poor, you didn't even have a pot to piss in.
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Post by douglavers on Nov 22, 2014 19:35:42 GMT
Walnut
You are referring to the Blue Mountains, just West of Sydney. They often look blueish because of the eucalyptus oil which evaporates from our indigenous trees.
The oil makes the trees burn catastrophically, like they did about two years ago.
Although the Blue Mountains are not very high [about 1000 meters], they were a terrible barrier for the first settlers as they rise in spectacular cliffs from the coastal plain. Those settlers should have asked the local aborigines, who knew where there was a pass.
Incidentally, those cliffs produce some incredibly deep gullys. One of those contained the Wollemi Pines, spectacular 40 meter high trees, all genetically identical, only discovered about 20 years ago about 100 kms from Sydney. Fortunately, the escapees are now doing very well elsewhere.
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Post by Ratty on Nov 22, 2014 22:02:50 GMT
Forty meters!! My neighbour has a Wollemi Pine in a pot. If they plant it out, I may have to sell.
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Post by walnut on Nov 22, 2014 22:16:34 GMT
Walnut You are referring to the Blue Mountains, just West of Sydney. They often look blueish because of the eucalyptus oil which evaporates from our indigenous trees. The oil makes the trees burn catastrophically, like they did about two years ago. Although the Blue Mountains are not very high [about 1000 meters], they were a terrible barrier for the first settlers as they rise in spectacular cliffs from the coastal plain. Those settlers should have asked the local aborigines, who knew where there was a pass. Incidentally, those cliffs produce some incredibly deep gullys. One of those contained the Wollemi Pines, spectacular 40 meter high trees, all genetically identical, only discovered about 20 years ago about 100 kms from Sydney. Fortunately, the escapees are now doing very well elsewhere. I had taken some very nice photos of the blue mountains, and their misty and prehistoric looking eucalyptis trees, back when I was there in the 80's. I wish I knew where those photos were.
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Post by scpg02 on Nov 23, 2014 5:31:09 GMT
Walnut You are referring to the Blue Mountains, just West of Sydney. They often look blueish because of the eucalyptus oil which evaporates from our indigenous trees. The oil makes the trees burn catastrophically, like they did about two years ago. Although the Blue Mountains are not very high [about 1000 meters], they were a terrible barrier for the first settlers as they rise in spectacular cliffs from the coastal plain. Those settlers should have asked the local aborigines, who knew where there was a pass. Incidentally, those cliffs produce some incredibly deep gullys. One of those contained the Wollemi Pines, spectacular 40 meter high trees, all genetically identical, only discovered about 20 years ago about 100 kms from Sydney. Fortunately, the escapees are now doing very well elsewhere. we had a similar problem with the Oakland fires. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_firestorm_of_1991It doesn't mention it here but the trees in that neighborhood were all eucalyptus. ucanr.edu/repositoryfiles/ca2709p13-64054.pdfabc7news.com/news/officials-urge-removal-of-eucalyptus-from-berkeley-oakland-hills/324916/
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Post by scpg02 on Nov 23, 2014 5:38:35 GMT
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Post by zaphod on Nov 23, 2014 14:51:45 GMT
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Post by walnut on Nov 23, 2014 15:28:50 GMT
I have been noticing that some of the media might have somewhat been stepping off the bandwagon for about the last year. Plenty of noise is still coming from some academics and activists however. Certain media, such as The National Geographic and the Christian Science Monitor, seem solidly married to climate change, and will ride it right into the ground.
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Post by douglavers on Nov 23, 2014 21:36:28 GMT
I am also extremely reluctant to admit I am wrong about anything.
Almost never required, of course!!
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Post by Ratty on Nov 23, 2014 22:01:40 GMT
Our $1.2 billion, publically-funded National broadcaster, the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), has ramped up a campaign to convince its audience that the science is settled, Obama is a saint, our PM is a Neanderthal, and that anyone with a slightly divergent view is evil. Parts of Obama's address to UQ are played regularly. ANY interview on ANY subject will likely be diverted to include questions on climate change. The ABC's charter is a legislated document which includes: I'm as mad a hell ...... www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXqs02lNQMM
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Post by Ratty on Nov 23, 2014 23:25:13 GMT
I am also extremely reluctant to admit I am wrong about anything. Almost never required, of course!! I made a mistake, once.
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Post by sigurdur on Nov 24, 2014 0:12:29 GMT
If I agree with you, that will make us both wrong.
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Post by Ratty on Nov 24, 2014 10:59:41 GMT
Aside: One Australian journalist - Piers Ackerman - wrote this after Obama's lecture on climate change at a Queensland University:
Hope he hasn't offended anyone ......
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Post by sigurdur on Nov 24, 2014 15:18:36 GMT
Temperatures in the Canadian Arctic are 5-8C below normal
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Post by nautonnier on Nov 25, 2014 22:15:12 GMT
Winter is coming early to the Great Lakes - "Ice is already starting to develop on Michigan's Great Lakes. This is the earliest ice on some of the Great Lakes in at least 40 years.
According to the Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory, on November 20, 2014, three of Michigan's Great Lakes had ice starting to form. Lake Superior and Lake Michigan were one-half percent ice covered, while Lake Huron had one percent ice. Lake Erie was not reporting any ice as of Nov. 20, 2014.
Decent early season ice coverage records date back to 1973. Last Friday was the earliest date that all three Great Lakes already had ice since the better reporting of early season ice began.
Lake Superior actually had ice forming on November 15th of this year. That is the earliest ice on Lake Superior in the good data set."Great Lakes ice cover developing; Earliest in over 40 years must be due to being the warmest year evah! The warm cold is the worst.
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