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Post by Ratty on Aug 20, 2015 7:22:03 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 20, 2015 15:47:01 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 20, 2015 19:10:54 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 23, 2015 23:51:06 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 24, 2015 11:15:31 GMT
Somebody really really needs to ask NOAA/NASA to define precisely what 'on record' means with a precise date from which their record starts. I have a feeling that it is rather more recent than the sleepy media think. I heard a local news report here with the newscaster breathlessly reporting that last July was the hottest ever in Earth's history. Sounds a little less exciting if it is since 1750 (even if neither are true).
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Post by acidohm on Aug 24, 2015 12:03:48 GMT
There's a good article I think posted here somewhere from WUWT. It is from a NOAA guy who states it is impossible due to the inaccuracies of temp measurement over the years to prove any one day/month etc is hottest. They can only give a likely hood that that it has been hotter then some periods and at best include in other hotter periods. There is no definitive. Found it....was a Met Office scientist.. wattsupwiththat.com/2015/07/13/a-return-to-the-question-was-2014-the-warmest-year/
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 24, 2015 15:15:05 GMT
There's a good article I think posted here somewhere from WUWT. It is from a NOAA guy who states it is impossible due to the inaccuracies of temp measurement over the years to prove any one day/month etc is hottest. They can only give a likely hood that that it has been hotter then some periods and at best include in other hotter periods. There is no definitive. Found it....was a Met Office scientist.. wattsupwiththat.com/2015/07/13/a-return-to-the-question-was-2014-the-warmest-year/The problem is that whatever is said in weaseled scientific terms is turned into 'headline' So: "There is a 30% probability that July 2015 was the hottest year in the instrumental record and 1936 has a 60% probability of being the hottest." Becomes: "July 2015 was the hottest year in the history of the Earth say NASA" All the low information politicians stop reading at that point.
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 29, 2015 12:17:28 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 29, 2015 14:44:57 GMT
Note that the story is 2 years old. Cameron was beholden to the green Liberal-Democrats with a rabid green politician running the Department of Energy and Climate Change (who was one of the Liberal Democrats failing to get elected at the last election). Cameron is now in the position that he can roll back the excessive support for the 'green' policies but people will dig up quotes from him made when he was placating his coalition partners where he voted for it before he voted against it. However, now he has a good majority, the Feed In Tariffs for solar panels on private roof tops at least for new panels will be reduced to a level that may as well be stopping the subsidy. It looks like some larger subsidy farms could also lose subsidies. This may be a trial of the strength of the 'greens' if this rolls through expect more subsidies being rolled back in UK.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 3, 2015 17:53:13 GMT
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Post by walnut on Sept 4, 2015 15:46:04 GMT
He chose to believe it (all, in for a penny in for a pound), so he is not entirely dishonest. The process is completely selfish and unscientific.
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Sept 4, 2015 17:00:23 GMT
Do you think our very own Graywolf is actually Mr. Obama posting here late at night?
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 4, 2015 21:58:13 GMT
Do you think our very own Graywolf is actually Mr. Obama posting here late at night? Well, the world is always ending, and we are all going to starve or die of heat stroke, so it very well may be?
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 8, 2015 1:01:05 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 10, 2015 2:11:07 GMT
Here's a preview of what one study believes that the United States owes in reparations for carbon emissionssince 1990. wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/08/eye-roller-study-should-countries-honor-their-climate-debts/In summary ... the world has released roughly 250 billion tons of carbon emissions since 1990. At $40 per ton, that equals 10 trillion $ in carbon debt, The U.S. is responsible for 40% of that debt, or 4 trillion $. On a per capita basis, that amounts to ~ $12,000 per man, woman or child.
On the bright side ... that is still much less than our current national debt ... so, I'm sure we'll be happy to write a check for our share! China will finance it.
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