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Post by throttleup on Jun 24, 2017 14:16:04 GMT
Indeed Naut....the 2 seem very analogous in many ways... Not all of us understand plumbing terms, Acid. Depends where your head's at, Ratty!
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Post by acidohm on Jun 24, 2017 16:35:21 GMT
Indeed Naut....the 2 seem very analogous in many ways... Not all of us understand plumbing terms, Acid. Shucks you called me out, im trying to use long words but i have no idea what it means....hoping to sound cleverer then wot i is
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Post by acidohm on Jun 24, 2017 20:29:56 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Jun 24, 2017 22:29:18 GMT
How did you manage to do the NullSchool animation, Acid?
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Post by acidohm on Jun 24, 2017 22:37:13 GMT
Screen shot every day, crop in PS, organise and make each day a frame, 10 or 12 fps something like that using some editing software..
(It took a while...!)
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Post by Ratty on Jun 24, 2017 23:32:17 GMT
Screen shot every day, crop in PS, organise and make each day a frame, 10 or 12 fps something like that using some editing software.. ( It took a while...!) Thought so. .... and thanks! I wonder if the developers have anything in the works?
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Post by Ratty on Jun 24, 2017 23:33:50 GMT
N. Atlantic blob?
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Post by acidohm on Jun 24, 2017 23:57:06 GMT
Screen shot every day, crop in PS, organise and make each day a frame, 10 or 12 fps something like that using some editing software.. ( It took a while...!) Thought so. .... and thanks! I wonder if the developers have anything in the works? I had communication with them...mainly to ask permission to use images and check as at one point a couple of vids were used by news networks :-O Theyve done animations same as i did since...but not before, i suggested they do something in the website, they commented they were working on it already. Sounded a bit like intellectual property protection? Its fair enough, anyone can do this frame by frame amimation but their website is truly unique and we all owe alot to them. And yes the blob is back similar to 2015, 2016 was subdued in comparison....
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Post by Ratty on Jun 25, 2017 0:55:31 GMT
Code, it's not a screenshot per sé; if you click on "Quote" you can see the link which I believe is dynamic (ie, it will update automatically). The link is: weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 26, 2017 10:32:01 GMT
Indeed Naut....the 2 seem very analogous in many ways... An interesting post in WUWT on a related way of looking at these currents wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/24/the-north-atlantic-seesaw/I wonder how long the current pattern (pun intended) will last? (Late edit -- I see you have already been there )
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Post by acidohm on Jun 26, 2017 14:03:47 GMT
Indeed Naut....the 2 seem very analogous in many ways... An interesting post in WUWT on a related way of looking at these currents wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/24/the-north-atlantic-seesaw/I wonder how long the current pattern (pun intended) will last? (Late edit -- I see you have already been there ) I linked the thread to my email and have nearly 200 or something Theyre all very focused on the pacific etc...id argue that seeing as 2015 was cold in the NA, last year not so much....and this year the cold blob seems to be increasing again. Perhaps the Nino had the opposite effect being described in this case. Then again, 2014 was a 'rising nino' year and this year is a post nino 'bump" year (as duwayne so insightfully demonstrated).. I remain convinced the answer lies in the lab current/GS Interaction, i just dont know the why..
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 26, 2017 15:02:22 GMT
I linked the thread to my email and have nearly 200 or something Theyre all very focused on the pacific etc...id argue that seeing as 2015 was cold in the NA, last year not so much....and this year the cold blob seems to be increasing again. Perhaps the Nino had the opposite effect being described in this case. Then again, 2014 was a 'rising nino' year and this year is a post nino 'bump" year (as duwayne so insightfully demonstrated).. I remain convinced the answer lies in the lab current/GS Interaction, i just dont know the why.. It is where the cold water is coming from that is interesting. There is a similar but opposite sense effect in the Gulf of Mexico - the 'Loop Current' is actually cold but where it exits around South Florida it is warm - where did that warm come from? And yes I know its an anomaly but it is still a warm anomaly being fed by a cold anomaly.
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Post by acidohm on Jun 26, 2017 15:15:55 GMT
It is where the cold water is coming from that is interesting. There is a similar but opposite sense effect in the Gulf of Mexico - the 'Loop Current' is actually cold but where it exits around South Florida it is warm - where did that warm come from? And yes I know its an anomaly but it is still a warm anomaly being fed by a cold anomaly. Exactly so! This is a persistant pattern, might be interesting to rewind some anomaly graphs and trace back the start of such differences to the norm. At some point i saw a paper stating differences in predominant winds cause a change in up/downwelling...
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Post by nonentropic on Jun 26, 2017 21:06:15 GMT
These SST maps are just the surface temperature and the key discussion is why is the cold water on the surface. If it due to lower salinity then a melt further north may be the cause, but if its actually cold below then there is much to consider.
Its normal for there to be falling temperatures at depth but if you look at the El Nino or La Nina thermal profile in the Pacific its very different from normal and that concept is what is also possible in the Gulf Stream. This needs watching because a drop of 2C west of Europe could impact a lot of people just not sure what and how and is it just a fluctuation?
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Post by Ratty on Jun 26, 2017 22:11:31 GMT
[ Snip ] It is where the cold water is coming from that is interesting. There is a similar but opposite sense effect in the Gulf of Mexico - the 'Loop Current' is actually cold but where it exits around South Florida it is warm - where did that warm come from? And yes I know its an anomaly but it is still a warm anomaly being fed by a cold anomaly. Promise you won't start the black body discussion again.
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