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Post by Ratty on Oct 23, 2016 11:56:34 GMT
I'm naive in these matters but .......... I wonder - when all the cars, buses and transport vehicles are electric, when "carbon polluting" power stations are no more, when fracking is banned - where the charging power is going to come from. Will we be able to move for wind turbines? Will vast swathes of agricultural land be given over to solar farms? What will happen? Any futurists out there?
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Post by acidohm on Oct 23, 2016 12:19:00 GMT
I know a guy who covered his factory roof in solar panels and plugs his tesla in when he gets to work each day....
Now where's my factory roof???....
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 23, 2016 13:41:59 GMT
Seems I have been hearing this all my life.
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 23, 2016 18:10:06 GMT
When I lived in Alaska we all had engine oil heaters that we would plug in every night in the winter. If Astro is right Acid, y'all are gonna need all the juice you can get to keep the Thames liquid ... if ya know what I mean.
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 23, 2016 19:07:03 GMT
When I lived in Alaska we all had engine oil heaters that we would plug in every night in the winter. If Astro is right Acid, y'all are gonna need all the juice you can get to keep the Thames liquid ... if ya know what I mean. The likelihood an anonymous weather blogger/forecaster/astrologer gets it right over multiple academic public institutions is remote. The odds are not in Astro's favor. The fun thing about all this is that nobody alive today has witnessed such a solar downturn, so none of us really know what the hell we're talking about. As for those noble academic and other public institutions, the one thing I am sure of (having worked in same for years) is that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE there is going to stick their neck out and make such a prediction. They will jump if and when they see the blade falling ... otherwise expect nothing. I don't know if Astro's right or not ... we will see. But history is full of 'outsiders' getting it right over the generally worthless, so-called academics. So, with some exceptions, their silence or 'prophesy' of other results means about as much as 'breaking wind' on the prairie.
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 23, 2016 19:10:45 GMT
When I lived in Alaska we all had engine oil heaters that we would plug in every night in the winter. If Astro is right Acid, y'all are gonna need all the juice you can get to keep the Thames liquid ... if ya know what I mean. The likelihood an anonymous weather blogger/forecaster/astrologer gets it right over multiple academic public institutions is remote. The odds are not in Astro's favor. I would not bet the farm on that Code. The 'professional' weather men such as the UK Met Office and the US National Weather service have a far lower 'accuracy' for long range forecasts than the Farmers Almanacs which have accuracies of 80% or better and which use a similar approach to Theo's.
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Post by icefisher on Oct 23, 2016 19:49:39 GMT
The likelihood an anonymous weather blogger/forecaster/astrologer gets it right over multiple academic public institutions is remote. The odds are not in Astro's favor. I would not bet the farm on that Code. The 'professional' weather men such as the UK Met Office and the US National Weather service have a far lower 'accuracy' for long range forecasts than the Farmers Almanacs which have accuracies of 80% or better and which use a similar approach to Theo's. Really in truly. Multiple academic public institutions at the moment have about as much chance of getting it right as the multiple academic Roman Catholic educational institutions had of getting it right that the earth rotated around the sun vs vice versa. As perhaps one of the most qualified and revered specialists in atmospheric optics, Dr Willam Happer says: Holy Simplicity, which was the comment of Jan Hus while being burned at the stake for heresy when an old woman came up and threw another bundle of kindling on the fire. The science is settled so you can neither get funding nor hang onto a key job directing what does get funding.
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Post by Ratty on Oct 23, 2016 23:36:42 GMT
Seems I have been hearing this all my life. Add "the Great Barrier Reef is dying." I can recall from my elementary school days, talk of the GBR being threatened from multiple directions: Crown of Thorns starfish, nutrient & pesticide run-off from cane fields, dredging, tourists, climate change, etc.
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Post by icefisher on Oct 24, 2016 0:09:54 GMT
I mean Theo no ill but I can not in good faith subscribe to what he is preaching. I want real engineers designing the bridges I drive over not alternative engineers and Theo is an alternative forecaster, if Theo is able to convince a University or College to to invest funds in his ideas than I would be more likely to agree with him. Thats common sense. But if you are a farmer and you have to make a decision. . . . With a bridge maybe you can ride a ferry as an alternative with little inconvenience or perhaps choose to not make the trip. Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts, Richard Feynman. I would take that to mean all experts. Dr Will Happer, Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics at Princeton University and an expert in atmospheric optics essentially the heart and soul of the GHE thinks most observed climate variation is natural. He explains that there is no universally accepted engineering model for the GHE and points out that if there were it would be exceedingly easy to explain how it works and results would be predictable. But they are not. The only reason the mainstream CAGW folks have avoided having to admit that their theory is wrong is by claiming something else is wrong, like namely the temperature record so they correct the temperature record to at least bring it close to the model predictions to avoid science integrity of issue of having to admit their theory is wrong.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 24, 2016 2:36:37 GMT
I mean Theo no ill but I can not in good faith subscribe to what he is preaching. I want real engineers designing the bridges I drive over not alternative engineers and Theo is an alternative forecaster, if Theo is able to convince a University or College to to invest funds in his ideas than I would be more likely to agree with him. Naut is correct. Even during the past 2 decades the Old Farmers Almanac has out performed NOAA etc. I know what their winter forecast is. I have not come across a multi year forecast by them.
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Post by Ratty on Oct 24, 2016 5:37:22 GMT
I mean Theo no ill but I can not in good faith subscribe to what he is preaching. I want real engineers designing the bridges I drive over not alternative engineers and Theo is an alternative forecaster, if Theo is able to convince a University or College to to invest funds in his ideas than I would be more likely to agree with him. Maybe Theo throws the astronomical aspects into the "regular" mix (the "known knowns") ..... I'm ambivalent ** on the subject. ** ... but my doctor says he may be able to do something about it.
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 24, 2016 15:11:25 GMT
I mean Theo no ill but I can not in good faith subscribe to what he is preaching. I want real engineers designing the bridges I drive over not alternative engineers and Theo is an alternative forecaster, if Theo is able to convince a University or College to to invest funds in his ideas than I would be more likely to agree with him. Maybe Theo throws the astronomical aspects into the "regular" mix (the "known knowns") ..... I'm ambivalent ** on the subject. ** ... but my doctor says he may be able to do something about it. Is he a proctologist?
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 24, 2016 15:18:45 GMT
Seems I have been hearing this all my life. Add "the Great Barrier Reef is dying." I can recall from my elementary school days, talk of the GBR being threatened from multiple directions: Crown of Thorns starfish, nutrient & pesticide run-off from cane fields, dredging, tourists, climate change, etc. Today Public Radio declared the GBR dead. Not dying, but stone cold dead. And, of course, they should know. So tell your tourist commission to stop with the false advertising already. Published Obituary: "Great Barrier Reef. 25 million years old. Passed away after a long illness."
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Post by Ratty on Oct 24, 2016 22:13:01 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Oct 24, 2016 23:47:26 GMT
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