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Post by sigurdur on Jan 25, 2018 20:07:31 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 25, 2018 23:05:23 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Jan 25, 2018 23:29:36 GMT
This is NOT a humble sandwich:
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 26, 2018 10:40:17 GMT
By using areas that have almost no observations and adjusting them warmer, NASA has managed to show an 'anomaly' that is almost one tenth of the error bars. That is before we get into the mathematical absurdity of 'averaging' intensive variables. It is about as useful as the average car color although it is mathematically as accurate, to 3 decimal places, as the average New York telephone number.
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 26, 2018 15:08:34 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Jan 27, 2018 0:14:11 GMT
What is In Other Climate Records is Not What You Get With NCDC - Winnipeg, CanadaThere is a strange upward bump in Winnipeg's monthly temperature data that diverges sharply from deviations for other stations about 2009. It is in the station-specific data that you get from climate online. I went in and checked on weather underground and sure enough ... starting in 2009 each July's mean temp is between 1.8 and 2 C lower in the Weather Underground data. So far, every year before 2009 looks OK. Graphs for every month seem to show that anomaly. AND NOW I've got to go back and fix it. I'm not sure if I'm madder that I've got to go back and recalculate 108 numbers and re-enter them ... OR because they are so surprisingly stupid ... and lazy. I think I can hear the conversation ... "Oh, just add about 2 C to every month for the last decade. No one will notice." WABOFI argxxx@%#$ The Canadian Climatists may have done the number on this one and passed it along. I'm incredibly pissed (in the American sense) and will use this as an excuse to get incredibly pissed (in the English sense). I'm a culturally inclusive pisser. Here ya go, you can compare perhaps? ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v4/beta/ (.qcu file)
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 27, 2018 1:53:15 GMT
What is In Other Climate Records is Not What You Get With NCDC - Winnipeg, CanadaThere is a strange upward bump in Winnipeg's monthly temperature data that diverges sharply from deviations for other stations about 2009. It is in the station-specific data that you get from climate online. I went in and checked on weather underground and sure enough ... starting in 2009 each July's mean temp is between 1.8 and 2 C lower in the Weather Underground data. So far, every year before 2009 looks OK. Graphs for every month seem to show that anomaly. AND NOW I've got to go back and fix it. I'm not sure if I'm madder that I've got to go back and recalculate 108 numbers and re-enter them ... OR because they are so surprisingly stupid ... and lazy. I think I can hear the conversation ... "Oh, just add about 2 C to every month for the last decade. No one will notice." WABOFI argxxx@%#$ The Canadian Climatists may have done the number on this one and passed it along. I'm incredibly pissed (in the American sense) and will use this as an excuse to get incredibly pissed (in the English sense). I'm a culturally inclusive pisser. Here ya go, you can compare perhaps? ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v4/beta/ (.qcu file) What is this?
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Post by sigurdur on Jan 27, 2018 2:10:53 GMT
It is the raw data for Winnipeg...............supposedly. Zeke sent it to me.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 31, 2018 17:12:46 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Jan 31, 2018 17:20:18 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 31, 2018 17:41:57 GMT
It is the raw data for Winnipeg...............supposedly. Zeke sent it to me. Does Zeke have the data format description complete with codes? I can't read the .inv file. The .dat file unzips fine but it is full of funny column separator ccharacters. It has 12 columns of numbers that I assume are months, but the left-hand codes (stations, etc) are unknown. Looks like a year is embedded.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 31, 2018 17:50:32 GMT
Flip the sign and keep on dancing.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 2, 2018 0:59:37 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 2, 2018 3:38:46 GMT
Seems like your own swamp is fighting back hard. Might I suggest "pink slips" for the entire institutional administration. Every last one of them. No worries mate, there are plenty of replacements out there.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 2, 2018 3:54:51 GMT
[ Snip ]Seems like your own swamp is fighting back hard. Might I suggest "pink slips" for the entire institutional administration. Every last one of them. No worries mate, there are plenty of replacements out there. I understand France will take as many as we can sack?
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