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Post by buildreps on Aug 21, 2016 18:46:01 GMT
If you add up all the channels of the RSS, and weigh correctly the density of the air layers that every specific channel measures, you'll see that the atmosphere as a whole is cooling down. That is to say the troposphere and stratosphere together end up at a rate of -0.0976 °C per decade. The stratosphere is warming up, while the troposphere is cooling down. Over the last two decades is the atmosphere as a whole unmistakeably cooling down. The whole atmosphere cooled down 0.2°C over the last 20 years. It is just a matter of time before the troposphere looses its warmth to the stratosphere. The PDO cycles also play an important role in the transfer of energy as well. The greenhouse gases may trap partially the collected warmth in the troposphere, but when the temperature difference (ΔT) between the lower and higher atmosphere increases, the troposphere will cool down. The cause: the second law of thermodynamics (energy flows from hot to cold) is much stronger than the greenhouse effect. The CO2 levels will still rise for the next decades to come, while the temperature curves of the ground stations will level off. The climate movement will be confused how that is possible, because they still believe that CO2 is responsible for warming. The fact will become clear that the data analysis was incomplete and infantile. Humanity, as the climate "scientists" with their colossal egos want us to believe, has not a single influence on the climate at all. Here is part of the proof: www.mediafire.com/view/0xvng66daj6huv7/RSS_Channels.png
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Post by flearider on Aug 21, 2016 20:29:34 GMT
well to say another ice age is not far away would be a mistake .. within 200yrs for sure ..
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Post by nonentropic on Aug 21, 2016 21:37:04 GMT
Flearider I would hold a little more caution. I don't think anyone can predict the climate into the future.
There are a number of schools of thinking we have all read Astro and there are many more but they are just Hypotheses at this time. The research institution have put some models up but find the outcomes a little disappointing so they squeeze the data back to reflect their wishes.
The data can only be mangled into submission if the changes are close to the errors but ultimately they will all have to lift their skirt as the variations exceed the errors.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 22, 2016 1:26:06 GMT
In a world perpetually on the edge, current grain surpluses aside, another 2 C across a decade (even 1 C) just might do it. If the Prairie Provinces and other climatically leveraged grain-producing areas get clobbered, famine may stalk the land. General Cold will not need his whole division.
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 25, 2016 17:57:50 GMT
If you add up all the channels of the RSS, and weigh correctly the density of the air layers that every specific channel measures, you'll see that the atmosphere as a whole is cooling down. That is to say the troposphere and stratosphere together end up at a rate of -0.0976 °C per decade. The stratosphere is warming up, while the troposphere is cooling down. Over the last two decades is the atmosphere as a whole unmistakeably cooling down. The whole atmosphere cooled down 0.2°C over the last 20 years. It is just a matter of time before the troposphere looses its warmth to the stratosphere. The PDO cycles also play an important role in the transfer of energy as well. The greenhouse gases may trap partially the collected warmth in the troposphere, but when the temperature difference (ΔT) between the lower and higher atmosphere increases, the troposphere will cool down. The cause: the second law of thermodynamics (energy flows from hot to cold) is much stronger than the greenhouse effect. The CO2 levels will still rise for the next decades to come, while the temperature curves of the ground stations will level off. The climate movement will be confused how that is possible, because they still believe that CO2 is responsible for warming. The fact will become clear that the data analysis was incomplete and infantile. Humanity, as the climate "scientists" with their colossal egos want us to believe, has not a single influence on the climate at all. Here is part of the proof: www.mediafire.com/view/0xvng66daj6huv7/RSS_Channels.pngIn fact, we do bullreps. With the above stated, the effect is not nearly as dramatic as the few believers believe.
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Post by acidohm on Sept 10, 2016 7:21:59 GMT
In low-earth-orbit there is still a small amount of air. When solar activity is high, the upper atmosphere heats up and expands bringing more air up to the satellites, thus braking them [by air resistance] and lowering their orbits. Sometimes so much that they fall out of the sky.
Something leif svalgaard commented on wuwt in relation to solar activity predictions and decisions to keep or drop satellites from orbit....
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Post by AstroMet on Sept 29, 2016 0:55:46 GMT
Flearider I would hold a little more caution. I don't think anyone can predict the climate into the future. There are a number of schools of thinking we have all read Astro and there are many more but they are just Hypotheses at this time. The research institution have put some models up but find the outcomes a little disappointing so they squeeze the data back to reflect their wishes. The data can only be mangled into submission if the changes are close to the errors but ultimately they will all have to lift their skirt as the variations exceed the errors. Sorry Nonentropic, but no, my forecasts are not "Hypotheses." Rather, I forecast. And I have 'predicted the climate into the future' numerous times. So I don't know what you are talking about when you say that you don't think anyone can predict the climate in future. I do it. Also, I don't accept the direction you are coming from with this 'schools of thinking,' because you are in error with me when it comes to astronomic forecasting. I perform that function not from an academic or closed laboratory mindset, nor of tinkering with computer climate models, but from a professional get-the-work-done stance - meaning again that I forecast advanced climate and weather in reality, here, in the real world where it can be applied. What I do is an applied science, which is the entire point of predicting in the first place. I have written extensively on astronomic climate/weather forecasting and have consistently beat out NOAA/NWS, NASA and climate centers in forecasting climate conditions and its weather - from ENSO, to droughts, to major storms, etc., etc. Also, I do not employ what you think of as 'models,' as my method of astronomic forecasting is based on solar, lunar, and planetary transits relative to Earth. That is where the causes of our climate and weather come from and always have. It is important to clearly understand that there are those who nickel-and-dime the Earth's climate system precisely because they do not know the basics of forecasting it. These are those who utilize legacy data only while guessing what future climate conditions and the weather will be. That's hardly forecasting. The entire point of Science is the ability to predict. That is what I do.
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