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Post by blustnmtn on May 31, 2019 21:44:38 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 31, 2019 22:46:48 GMT
It does take the wind out the sails of the CFC ban is working look how the ozone 'hole' is recovering, if there is significant CFC being emitted. The entire claim was a scam in any case as the patent on the refrigerants were coming to an end so widespread manufacture would have killed profits. So get it banned and replaced by another refrigerant that we just happen to have a patent for (what a coincidence!)
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Post by blustnmtn on Jun 1, 2019 2:13:36 GMT
It does take the wind out the sails of the CFC ban is working look how the ozone 'hole' is recovering, if there is significant CFC being emitted. The entire claim was a scam in any case as the patent on the refrigerants were coming to an end so widespread manufacture would have killed profits. So get it banned and replaced by another refrigerant that we just happen to have a patent for (what a coincidence!) Yes. My point is that China has no regard for anything that isn’t in their best interests. I think the “ozone hole” and CFCs was a prototype for CO2.
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Post by Ratty on Jun 1, 2019 3:12:48 GMT
[ Snip ] I think the “ozone hole” and CFCs was a prototype for CO2. #MeToo. A dummy run.
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Post by missouriboy on Jun 1, 2019 7:32:38 GMT
[ Snip ] I think the “ozone hole” and CFCs was a prototype for CO2. #MeToo. A dummy run. [br I found a photo to post, but was told they would arrest me if I did. 😀]
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 1, 2019 10:15:53 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 5, 2019 3:51:58 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 5, 2019 9:56:26 GMT
That's good news - now to shut down the BLM and pass their work to the states. The Federal government is not supposed to own any lands by definition the BLM therefore should not exist. It has become just another weaponized agency.
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 6, 2019 16:37:57 GMT
That's good news - now to shut down the BLM and pass their work to the states. The Federal government is not supposed to own any lands by definition the BLM therefore should not exist. It has become just another weaponized agency. Can you please provide a source or link to your comment the BLM should not own lands. An interesting summary here: "....... * Under the Treaty Clause (II-2-2; see also Article VI), the federal government may acquire land outside state boundaries. As long as the area is governed as a territory, the federal government may retain any land it deems best. * As for acreage (“other Property”) within state boundaries: Under the Necessary and Proper Clause, the federal government may acquire and retain land necessary for carrying out its enumerated powers. This includes parcels for military bases, post offices, buildings to house federal employees undertaking enumerated functions, and the like. It is not necessary to form federal enclaves for these purposes. * But within state boundaries the Constitution grants no authority to retain acreage for unenumerated purposes, such as land for grazing, mineral development, agriculture, forests, or parks. * Once a state is created and is thereby no longer a territory, the federal government has a duty to dispose of tracts not used for enumerated purposes. ..........." (my bold) i2i.org/what-does-the-constitution-say-about-federal-land-ownership/The United States may be a country of laws. But I have found that politicians of all stripes are happy to just ignore the law and if sufficient people join in ignoring the law then that law falls into disrepute. The same corrosion by ignorance is incrementally happening to 'The Constitution'. It will soon just be an interesting historical document like the UK Magna Carta unless originalists take the country back to the intended meanings and enforce the law as it was written and intended to be used. So the freeing and emancipation of the slaves was not meant to be a way for Chinese 'birth tourists' to generate anchor babies - for future use. www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/chinese-birth-tourism-shows-citizenship-evolves
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Post by walnut on Jun 7, 2019 13:11:31 GMT
For those interested the author of the book the fourth turning will be interviewed on Coast to Coast this evening. www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2019/06/06coast from time to time has guests of interest like the telepathic goat I used to like the Art Bell ones.
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Post by walnut on Jun 7, 2019 13:15:17 GMT
That's good news - now to shut down the BLM and pass their work to the states. The Federal government is not supposed to own any lands by definition the BLM therefore should not exist. It has become just another weaponized agency. Can you please provide a source or link to your comment the BLM should not own lands. I want a small federal government, but I like the idea that I can travel around over the landscape wherever I want, I can even dig for gold with a simple permit if I want. East of New Mexico, you can barely step off the road anywhere without being a trespasser. The countryside you see from the highway is almost entirely off limits.
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 8, 2019 17:55:56 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 8, 2019 18:05:13 GMT
Can you please provide a source or link to your comment the BLM should not own lands. I want a small federal government, but I like the idea that I can travel around over the landscape wherever I want, I can even dig for gold with a simple permit if I want. East of New Mexico, you can barely step off the road anywhere without being a trespasser. The countryside you see from the highway is almost entirely off limits. There is nothing to prevent _states_ owning land having state parks and simple permits for mineral exploration. However, the much ignored enumerated powers do not justify the Federal government owning lands that are not required for those enumerated powers. Indeed there are many many occasions when members of the US congress come up with really good ideas, however, they need to be told that they are ONLY members of the US congress and it is not their job to impose that idea, it is the job of the state legislatures or even the people. Members of the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Senate have become bumptious and act beyond their authority in areas in which they have no business. While at the same time they ignore the more difficult and less tractable problems that are within their remit for example immigration both legal and illegal.
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Post by walnut on Jun 8, 2019 22:47:34 GMT
I want a small federal government, but I like the idea that I can travel around over the landscape wherever I want, I can even dig for gold with a simple permit if I want. East of New Mexico, you can barely step off the road anywhere without being a trespasser. The countryside you see from the highway is almost entirely off limits. There is nothing to prevent _states_ owning land having state parks and simple permits for mineral exploration. However, the much ignored enumerated powers do not justify the Federal government owning lands that are not required for those enumerated powers. Indeed there are many many occasions when members of the US congress come up with really good ideas, however, they need to be told that they are ONLY members of the US congress and it is not their job to impose that idea, it is the job of the state legislatures or even the people. Members of the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Senate have become bumptious and act beyond their authority in areas in which they have no business. While at the same time they ignore the more difficult and less tractable problems that are within their remit for example immigration both legal and illegal. I'm not saying that it is right or wrong, I am just saying that it is nice to be able to travel over, and to some extent even "use" the public lands out west. East of the Rockies, it is kinda like a monopoly board. Don't step on Park Place. Unfortunately almost all of the land is owned and off limits. There are a few nice state parks, and wildlife management areas, but you had better not cut a sapling down, put a rock in your pickup, or even light a campfire in most cases.
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Post by missouriboy on Jun 9, 2019 5:17:20 GMT
There is nothing to prevent _states_ owning land having state parks and simple permits for mineral exploration. However, the much ignored enumerated powers do not justify the Federal government owning lands that are not required for those enumerated powers. Indeed there are many many occasions when members of the US congress come up with really good ideas, however, they need to be told that they are ONLY members of the US congress and it is not their job to impose that idea, it is the job of the state legislatures or even the people. Members of the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Senate have become bumptious and act beyond their authority in areas in which they have no business. While at the same time they ignore the more difficult and less tractable problems that are within their remit for example immigration both legal and illegal. I'm not saying that it is right or wrong, I am just saying that it is nice to be able to travel over, and to some extent even "use" the public lands out west. East of the Rockies, it is kinda like a monopoly board. Don't step on Park Place. Unfortunately almost all of the land is owned and off limits. There are a few nice state parks, and wildlife management areas, but you had better not cut a sapling down, put a rock in your pickup, or even light a campfire in most cases. Land west of the 100th meridian was mostly unproductive under the small landowner economics of the times (1850-1900). On the plains, the cattle barons tried to take it but couldn't quite manage. In the mountain states, the Eastern-owned mining and timber barons wished to "take and forget". It has been argued that if Teddy had not been able to set aside and protect portions of Federal lands, the Eastern Feudal Lords would have stripped it clean ... but only the best.
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