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Post by mralex on May 18, 2017 22:24:33 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on May 18, 2017 23:50:37 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 19, 2017 7:41:01 GMT
Svensmark may get some assistance as the earth moves into a denser area of the interstellar dust cloud in the spiral arm of the galaxy. "Cosmic Rays hitting Earth Intensifying | Climate to plunge into Chaos"www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlVFEvoAQL8This is not a new idea Nir Shaviv has been pushing this for some time for example: "LONG-TERM VARIATIONS IN THE GALACTIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE SUN Nir J. Shaviv Racah Institute of Physics, Hebrew University, Jerusalem 91904, Israel Abstract We review the long-term variations in the galactic environment in the vicinity of the solar system. These include changes in the cosmic ray flux, in the pressure of the different interstellar components and possibly even gravitational tides. On very long time scales, the variations arise from the variable star formation rate of the Milky Way, while on shorter scales, from passages through the galactic spiral arms and vertical oscillations relative to the galactic plane. We also summarize the various records of past variations, in meteorites, in the ocean sea floor and even in various paleoclimatic records."www.phys.huji.ac.il/~shaviv/articles/ShavivChapter.pdf
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Post by mralex on May 20, 2017 4:28:09 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on May 20, 2017 5:00:05 GMT
Weather records show that April precipitation for the Edmonton Alberta area was the largest monthly value in the entire record, which goes back to 1890. April temps were also below normal. I guess they got some of that stuff that's been burying you Code. Nice and wet here with very pleasant temps. The plants are going wild.
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Post by Ratty on May 20, 2017 12:50:33 GMT
Maybe it's only weather?
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Post by missouriboy on May 20, 2017 13:05:07 GMT
Maybe the Pope is Catholic? Climate is when weather patterns persist for some time. We will see. I'm betting on at least a re-run of the 1960s. Or ...? We shall see.
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Post by glennkoks on May 22, 2017 2:00:56 GMT
Good article. It's going to take a lot of food to feed earth's burgeoning population over the decades to come. A return just to the weather we experienced in the 1970's could cause issues and anything more severe could have big effects. Interesting article on future food needs: www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-feeding-china/
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Post by missouriboy on May 22, 2017 3:50:33 GMT
Good article. It's going to take a lot of food to feed earth's burgeoning population over the decades to come. A return just to the weather we experienced in the 1970's could cause issues and anything more severe could have big effects. Interesting article on future food needs: www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-feeding-china/There is a lot of land (in smaller parcels) in my area that used to feed large families on 40 acres or less. Here, these lands occupy the largely wooded areas south of the prairies extending down to the Missouri River. Agriculture was largely abandoned on these small homesteads after WWII as people went to work in the cities ... and they have gone back to forest mixed with small grasslands. Modern, machine-intensive agriculture is probably not profitable on such small holdings under current economic conditions. I'm sure this story is repeated many times over in most of the eastern states. Transplant China here and the landscape would look very different. Re-use of these lands could probably never replace the production of the northern Great Plains under worsening climate conditions. However, intensive special-product agriculture aimed at the local urban markets might make a go of it, if food prices were to rise significantly.
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Post by sigurdur on May 22, 2017 4:54:25 GMT
A garden can supply copious amounts of food.
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Post by Ratty on May 22, 2017 7:46:00 GMT
A garden can supply copious amounts of food. Is that a quote from Peter Sellers in " Being There"?
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Post by glennkoks on May 22, 2017 12:55:22 GMT
A garden can supply copious amounts of food. My father grew up in Chicago during The Great Depression. My grandfather lost his job and his house. He scrounged every penny they had remaining and purchased another dilapidated home on the courthouse steps at auction. The entire family then went to work "scrounging" anything that could be used to repair the new Koks household. One of the first things they did was knock down a fence and claim a vacant lot. Giving them about an acre for the family garden. Dad used to tell us how much food they actually produced on that one acre lot and more importantly just how hard it was "weeding" that garden. He always loved growing things until his dying days but never planted another garden. Said he had enough when he was young.
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Post by sigurdur on May 22, 2017 13:30:11 GMT
To have a successful garden, your Dad is correct that it is a lot of work. Weeding is non stop. Get behind, and you will never catch up. It is amazing tho how much food can be grown on a small area if attended daily. Our garden provides us with a lot of food.
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Post by missouriboy on May 22, 2017 15:52:52 GMT
My fathers family (2 adults and 9 children born between 1908 and 1928) survived on a 62 acre farm (purchased in the 1880s and still in the family). A 1-acre garden, a small orchard, bee hives and field crops supplied the family, a mule, a milk cow, multiple hogs and some horses. A small blacksmith operation, a small grain mill and the surplus field crops generated a small cash surplus. My father said that without squirrels and rabbits there would often have been no meat on the table. The deer were long gone ... eaten out by the the early settlers. A tough life by todays standards. A root cellar and a cistern were the frig and water supply. Bathing was not often and definitely not hot. But my grandfather refused to sell the old-growth white oak trees to the whiskey barrel makers that swept through the countryside at the turn of the century. Part Baptist, part Celt I'd guess. No matter what the need for firewood, the old trees remained. They are still there ... and the pellet makers shall not have them. The 40-pound squirrels that forage the shagbark hickories and walnuts are safe and feisty.
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Post by glennkoks on May 23, 2017 3:40:06 GMT
I asked my father if he ever went hungry during "The Great Depression". He said he could not remember being "hungry" but remembers eating oatmeal for days on end for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
It's a far cry from hearing my kids whining about running out of milk on occasion for their cereal...
My father passed away about a month ago but the stories he told my kids about growing up during the depression were priceless.
Fortunately or possibly unfortunately my kids will never have to pull nails out of a bunch of scrap wood that I scrounged up so they could be straightened and re-used. Till the day my father died he threw away nothing that could be re-used, re- claimed or re-purposed.
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