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Post by nonentropic on Jul 23, 2017 20:59:32 GMT
Maybe obesity rates will come down as the "all you can eat" places face a bit of cost pressure. A silver lining!
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 23, 2017 21:22:05 GMT
Maybe obesity rates will come down as the "all you can eat" places face a bit of cost pressure. A silver lining! So ... when the fat lady steps up to the microphone, she be a little thinner? And she'll be wearing a coat.
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Post by nonentropic on Jul 23, 2017 21:58:56 GMT
You see not so bad.
But in reality a change in climate cooler or warmer is an issue of where you grow stuff not if you can grow stuff. The US has a massive climatic diversity. Sig may see things differently but Sig sounds very smart and will find fresh options in the higher cost of food world. What will get kicked into touch is the production of corn for motor fuel. Thank god! Such stupidity will find the brick wall it has been searching for.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 23, 2017 22:04:44 GMT
You see not so bad. But in reality a change in climate cooler or warmer is an issue of where you grow stuff not if you can grow stuff. The US has a massive climatic diversity. Sig may see things differently but Sig sounds very smart and will find fresh options in the higher cost of food world. What will get kicked into touch is the production of corn for motor fuel. Thank god! Such stupidity will find the brick wall it has been searching for. I am not sure it is quite that easy - if the grow line moves 500 miles south it will create considerable problems as the prairies cannot move and the land further south will be difficult to re-purpose to wheat fields. The Ozarks are not like the Dakotas
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 23, 2017 22:09:51 GMT
So ... you northern fellers (latitude and elevation) will make out like bandits if the warmist crowd is correct. If the cool crowd is correct, you're screwed. Do I have that correct? Place your bets gentlemen ... and remember that snake oil has been known to produce hallucinations. Missouri Please send me the graphs Check this out Sig. I just noticed that the coldest julys' for the northern stations tend to fall on the declining flank of the solar cycle from just before to about 3 years before minimum ... in other words, about where we are now.
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Post by nonentropic on Jul 23, 2017 22:11:05 GMT
Yes and 40% of food is lost currently and the world is not just the US. Canada will just be a ski destination in the cooler world Australia will green considerably and that is a region of a similar scale to the US.
Different yes but not tragic. That goes for both a warmer and cooler world.
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 23, 2017 22:34:12 GMT
You see not so bad. But in reality a change in climate cooler or warmer is an issue of where you grow stuff not if you can grow stuff. The US has a massive climatic diversity. Sig may see things differently but Sig sounds very smart and will find fresh options in the higher cost of food world. What will get kicked into touch is the production of corn for motor fuel. Thank god! Such stupidity will find the brick wall it has been searching for. I am not sure it is quite that easy - if the grow line moves 500 miles south it will create considerable problems as the prairies cannot move and the land further south will be difficult to re-purpose to wheat fields. The Ozarks are not like the Dakotas The Ozarks are definitely not suited to the large-scale mechanized agriculture of the northern plains ... and the soils are not as good. However, in their day ... the 1830s to 1920s ... they supported large numbers of families and small urban areas under the economic conditions of that time. These small to mid-sized farms have largely gone back to forests and scrub. They could be productive again, supplying vegetables and custom grains and meats to local markets ... at higher prices of course. IF the descendants of those pioneering people are up to it. I hate to say it, but we may need to import some more third world farmers to show em how it's done. I see a lot of Vietnamese selling at the local farmers markets here. The Middle East may starve, but there is no reason we should have to. But that transition period would be tough. And I have very little faith in our current government institutions.
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 23, 2017 22:40:33 GMT
Yes and 40% of food is lost currently and the world is not just the US. Canada will just be a ski destination in the cooler world Australia will green considerably and that is a region of a similar scale to the US. Different yes but not tragic. That goes for both a warmer and cooler world. Literature suggests that a colder world may also be a drier world outside the current wettest areas. But, then again, what do we really know? If the Sahara turns green again, then those supposed Chinese investments there may pay off big time ... or not. We can always hope for a greener Oz.
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Post by Ratty on Jul 23, 2017 23:06:39 GMT
You see not so bad. But in reality a change in climate cooler or warmer is an issue of where you grow stuff not if you can grow stuff. The US has a massive climatic diversity. Sig may see things differently but Sig sounds very smart and will find fresh options in the higher cost of food world. What will get kicked into touch is the production of corn for motor fuel. Thank god! Such stupidity will find the brick wall it has been searching for. You may need to explain that, Non, for some on the board. Totally agree with you about using prime agricultural land to grow petrol. What are they thinking/smoking? (Don't answer that.)
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 24, 2017 4:18:18 GMT
Missouri Please send me the graphs Check this out Sig. I just noticed that the coldest julys' for the northern stations tend to fall on the declining flank of the solar cycle from just before to about 3 years before minimum ... in other words, about where we are now. Agree with that!
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 24, 2017 4:23:24 GMT
You see not so bad. But in reality a change in climate cooler or warmer is an issue of where you grow stuff not if you can grow stuff. The US has a massive climatic diversity. Sig may see things differently but Sig sounds very smart and will find fresh options in the higher cost of food world. What will get kicked into touch is the production of corn for motor fuel. Thank god! Such stupidity will find the brick wall it has been searching for. You may need to explain that, Non, for some on the board. Totally agree with you about using prime agricultural land to grow petrol. What are they thinking/smoking? (Don't answer that.) You have to understand the full cycle in regards to ethanol. The by-product of DDG is worth more than the corn. DDG(dry distillers grain) is a product that is a very effective feed in dairy and feed lots.
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Post by Ratty on Jul 24, 2017 5:16:20 GMT
[ Snip ] You have to understand the full cycle in regards to ethanol. The by-product of DDG is worth more than the corn. DDG(dry distillers grain) is a product that is a very effective feed in dairy and feed lots. More info required please .... for this home gardener.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 24, 2017 11:42:11 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Jul 24, 2017 12:10:12 GMT
... and, on balance, is growing petrol a good thing?
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 24, 2017 14:45:51 GMT
Britain faces 'unprecedented' winter downpours with a 1-in-3 chance of a new monthly rainfall record each year over the next decade, Met Office warns
Met Office used a supercomputer to simulate thousands of possible winters There is an 8% risk of record rainfall in south east England in any given winter Six regions of England and Wales were considered in the analysis by the Met Of these, four - south-east England, the Midlands, East Anglia and north-east England - met the threshold set for a high risk of extreme rainfallwww.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4725000/UK-faces-unprecedented-winter-downpours.html#ixzz4nlD8Rb6OWell well - the Met Office and Theo are in accord
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