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Post by nautonnier on Apr 6, 2019 16:19:39 GMT
Just a simple question how is the 'average' calculated?
1. What is it an 'average' of? 2. Is there any adjustment for the actual volume of atmosphere whose temperature goes toward the average? (A degree lat/degree lon box at the pole is significantly smaller than a degree lat/degree lon box at the equator) 3. Are we seeing the mean of top temperature and minimum temperature 'incorrectly' called the average? Or are there 'averages' that only use top temperatures? ( Even these are error prone due to enthalpy) 4. Do invented values weight the metric? That are there places where there are no observations that have invented metrics that are warmer than the surrounding real observations?
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 6, 2019 18:34:20 GMT
Just a simple question how is the 'average' calculated? 1. What is it an 'average' of? 2. Is there any adjustment for the actual volume of atmosphere whose temperature goes toward the average? (A degree lat/degree lon box at the pole is significantly smaller than a degree lat/degree lon box at the equator) 3. Are we seeing the mean of top temperature and minimum temperature 'incorrectly' called the average? Or are there 'averages' that only use top temperatures? ( Even these are error prone due to enthalpy) 4. Do invented values weight the metric? That are there places where there are no observations that have invented metrics that are warmer than the surrounding real observations? I assume that we could find the answer to these in the in-depth methodological publications from UAH. I have not ... but probably should.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 6, 2019 19:58:08 GMT
I think Fatjohn has a point.
My position has always been that CAGW is a myth, AGW is likely to be true in as much as the impact is between zero and only material at the margins. A good example may be NZ's temperate climate ski fields, a lift in the snow line of 100m is material to them and me, but the farmer in the valley, still has to function through a winter and summer cycle and will remain silent when asked how a little extra warmth and extra CO2 is working for him, but still complaining about extreme weather events should a handout from the government be possible.
The issue is still what is to be done, if anything, and here I invoke the Matt Ridley comment and that is that trying reduce the impact of CO2 with solar, wind and electric technologies now in vogue is like using chemo therapy to cure a common cold, the cure is worse than the symptoms.
Again if we look at the world in all its madness wind, solar and electric cars all look like ways of reducing wealth and doing nearly nothing to CO2 emissions, what does work is methane the CCG electric generators produce something like a third of the CO2 emissions of the coal fired generation being replaced. The US has shown the way here but this is a "capitalist" solution and and that then uncovers the bigger plan and that is the destruction of capitalism so that was never a solution at the outset.
Show them for what they are " watermelons".
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 7, 2019 13:50:16 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 7, 2019 21:45:45 GMT
First peach bloom today. High temp hit 80F. Low of 34F forecast for Friday night.
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Post by nautonnier on Apr 8, 2019 10:07:38 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Apr 8, 2019 18:57:40 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 9, 2019 14:16:30 GMT
Looks like you'll miss out on the fun Sig. And we are caught in the middle. www.foxnews.com/us/significant-spring-storm-threatens-blizzard-conditions-across-central-us-impact-up-to-200-million-americansUp to 2 feet of snow is forecast from the late-season winter storm across the Central U.S., in addition to heavy rain. (Fox News) This would be the second such storm in less than a month. The March 13 storm caused massive flooding in the Midwest, a blizzard in Colorado and Wyoming, and produced winds of between 96 mph and 110 mph. Besides heavy snow, rain will stretch across parts of the central U.S. that are still dealing with river flooding, including Iowa and Illinois. There is also the threat of severe weather for the Mississippi and Ohio River valleys through Thursday. This week's bomb cyclone one is expected to be similar in intensity and in snowfall, meteorologists said. Heavy, wet snow will fall from the Nebraska panhandle through south central and southeastern South Dakota into western Minnesota. Wind speeds can reach 50 mph to 60 mph across Kansas.
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 9, 2019 21:49:49 GMT
Ryan Mauh did a study. Bomb cyclones are declining.
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 9, 2019 21:52:46 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 10, 2019 1:33:28 GMT
Ryan Mauh did a study. Bomb cyclones are declining. Mae West is quoted as saying ... "It's not the number of men in my life. It's the life in my men." Does that apply to "bomb" cyclones?
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 11, 2019 15:24:43 GMT
Today Central Missouri does the "18-hour 35 F plunge". It's a reasonably typical spring event. If we're lucky, it will stay above 32 F and not kill the peach blooms.
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Post by Ratty on Apr 11, 2019 21:23:25 GMT
I've had to put a shirt on this morning. Finally, some coolth. 57F.
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 11, 2019 21:30:35 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 11, 2019 22:34:32 GMT
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