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Post by acidohm on Jul 22, 2020 7:53:52 GMT
China Floods I was checking out historical Chinese floods and it appears all the major ones (from a Wiki list en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_floods ) occur during solar minimums. The only large exception was the 1938 Yellow River floods that were intensionally set off by the Nationalist Government to interrupt the advance of Japanese forces. Interestingly, the large documented floods occur not only during solar minimum, but every two solar cycles: 1887, 1911, 1931, 1954, 1974, 1998 and 2020. Reasons? These years closely match record summers in UK. I've mentioned, as have others, the obvious approximate 20 year occurrence. We really should have been expecting a long hot summer around 2018....not using it as evidence of AGW.
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 22, 2020 19:13:42 GMT
China Floods I was checking out historical Chinese floods and it appears all the major ones (from a Wiki list en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_floods ) occur during solar minimums. The only large exception was the 1938 Yellow River floods that were intensionally set off by the Nationalist Government to interrupt the advance of Japanese forces. Interestingly, the large documented floods occur not only during solar minimum, but every two solar cycles: 1887, 1911, 1931, 1954, 1974, 1998 and 2020. Reasons? These years closely match record summers in UK. I've mentioned, as have others, the obvious approximate 20 year occurrence. We really should have been expecting a long hot summer around 2018....not using it as evidence of AGW. Wet China - Hot England? How precise to same year? Seems it may not be in effect for 2020. CO2 doesn't take orders worth a damn it seems.
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Post by acidohm on Jul 22, 2020 20:25:54 GMT
These years closely match record summers in UK. I've mentioned, as have others, the obvious approximate 20 year occurrence. We really should have been expecting a long hot summer around 2018....not using it as evidence of AGW. Wet China - Hot England? How precise to same year? Seems it may not be in effect for 2020. CO2 doesn't take orders worth a damn it seems. Top of my head, 1910, 34, 54, 76, 95, 2018. If other climate thingies are to go by, no point in looking for linear relationships....its more like a full bucket in the bed of a pickup on a rocky road. You know the waters gonna slosh, but when/where may not be predictable.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 22, 2020 20:38:18 GMT
Wet China - Hot England? How precise to same year? Seems it may not be in effect for 2020. CO2 doesn't take orders worth a damn it seems. Top of my head, 1910, 34, 54, 76, 95, 2018. If other climate thingies are to go by, no point in looking for linear relationships....its more like a full bucket in the bed of a pickup on a rocky road. You know the waters gonna slosh, but when/where may not be predictable. There's an interesting analogy - I would have talked of trying to drink a full cup of coffee in a Jeep
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Post by acidohm on Jul 22, 2020 21:27:37 GMT
That what coffee cup lids are for 😉
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Post by nonentropic on Jul 22, 2020 22:26:00 GMT
but hot coffee please to add a level of concern
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 23, 2020 3:34:45 GMT
That what coffee cup lids are for 😉 lids?
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 23, 2020 4:14:13 GMT
Wet China - Hot England? How precise to same year? Seems it may not be in effect for 2020. CO2 doesn't take orders worth a damn it seems. Top of my head, 1910, 34, 54, 76, 95, 2018. If other climate thingies are to go by, no point in looking for linear relationships....its more like a full bucket in the bed of a pickup on a rocky road. You know the waters gonna slosh, but when/where may not be predictable. Agreed. But if the slosh is meridional and all of these periods are solar cycle minimums, then even if the years are not exact, the meridional slosh is repeating the same general pattern not quite 180 degrees apart. Weather/climate rhyming? After all the Asian monsoons do the same general thingy every year at approximately the same time but with different magnitudes and other particulars. We are just adding the possibility of a spatial counterpoint.
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Post by acidohm on Jul 26, 2020 22:02:41 GMT
Cant verify how true this is atm.
Guess if this is the straw to the 3 gorges camels back.....we'll find out soon enough...
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 27, 2020 0:20:13 GMT
Cant verify how true this is atm. Guess if this is the straw to the 3 gorges camels back.....we'll find out soon enough... "China’s Three Gorges Dam has deformed slightly but if it breaks, it will be catastrophic.
China finally admitted per reports earlier this week that its Three Gorges Dam has ‘deformed slightly’ but claims it happened over the weekend, ignoring reports of this happened long ago.
In a rare revelation, Beijing has admitted that its 2.4-kilometer Three Gorges Dam spanning the Yangtze River in Hubei province “deformed slightly” after record flooding."thepatriotsreport.com/2020/07/26/developing-china-admits-three-gorges-dam-has-deformed-slightly-video-shows-if-it-breaks-it-will-be-catastrophic/If the Three Gorges Dam goes it will be the equivalent to China of a 9.0 quake on the San Andreas Fault for the USA
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 27, 2020 2:38:06 GMT
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Post by walnut on Jul 27, 2020 2:51:50 GMT
It's difficult to imagine a catastrophe that could happen here in the US that might equal it.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 27, 2020 2:54:50 GMT
It's difficult to imagine a catastrophe that could happen here in the US that might equal it. Dependent on the winds,Yellowstone caldera blowing would probably exceed the impact of a 'mere' dam failure.
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 27, 2020 3:26:03 GMT
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Post by walnut on Jul 27, 2020 4:32:33 GMT
It's difficult to imagine a catastrophe that could happen here in the US that might equal it. Dependent on the winds,Yellowstone caldera blowing would probably exceed the impact of a 'mere' dam failure. That's the only thing I could think of.. The Pleistocene ice dam floods would have been something to see from a safe distance.
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