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Post by Col 'NDX on Sept 3, 2008 14:07:05 GMT
Actually just testing the poll options. No better poll than to get things kicked off
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Post by twawki on Sept 16, 2008 10:27:24 GMT
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Post by vukcevic on Sept 17, 2008 17:07:42 GMT
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Post by jocarl11 on Sept 17, 2008 22:02:25 GMT
When is this global cooling going to hit the news i wonder? Just last week on ITN they were discussing the arctic melting more and more! I wonder if the media know that for the last year or so the earth temperatures have dropped?
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Post by stranger on Sept 24, 2008 23:11:58 GMT
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Post by Maui on Sept 30, 2008 16:46:00 GMT
Hello!
I posted on the old message board as Maui, but somehow lost my name. Anyway, I have posted on the Farmer's Almanac weather forum for about a year, and have put out quite a few details of my theory that the Sun influences volcanism on Earth by catalyzing nuclear fusion.
This is relevant to this forum because volcanoes are a big (if not THE BIGGEST) cause of cooling. This is not just true of short term climate change: it affects geology and planetary evolution.
I know natural cold fusion is regarded as a BYU myth, but at least there are SOME supporters of what I call "geofusion." The thing I would like to discuss here is more the planetary interaction thing. We have seen so much new evidence of induced volcanism (Io and Enceladus). Why reject the idea that induced volcanism occurs on Earth?
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Post by vukcevic on Oct 13, 2008 20:56:34 GMT
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Post by Tom in Texas on Oct 14, 2008 0:29:12 GMT
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Post by norpag on Oct 14, 2008 2:49:42 GMT
The AMSU - A site reports that on Oct 12 the temperature at 3000' was 457.87 degrees F cooler than on the same day last year. Maybe the AGW crowd will finally take notice.
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Post by Tom in Texas on Oct 14, 2008 2:59:10 GMT
Damn...norpag is right, just checked their site. It doesn't feel that cold though.
The Arctic is rapidly refreezing. Maybe that's the reason - absolute zero at the north pole.
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Post by latecommer on Oct 15, 2008 18:46:43 GMT
While volcanoes can be very important in climate they are not the major driving force in climate. Volcanoes act to block solar heating and on a short term basis can lower Earth's tempertures. On a long term event such as we have had before when there has been a dramatic increase in volcanic activity it can even cause decadal or centinial changes, but recall what volcanoes do...they block radiation, and that radiation or lack of it is what makes the temperature differences. The overwhelming influence on climate is the Sun. It can vary in all of its radiations from IR, UV, electromagnetic, and others. How it effects the Earth is often a matter of what is coming from the sun and how it is absorbed/reflected by the changing albedo of the Earth. In the present case, I believe the slowing of the solar wind is a primary factor in the cooling trend. Cosmic rays are less inhibited from our atmoshpere and with their cloud forming ability have changed the albedo of the Earth with an increase in low level clouds reported by several sources. Increased cloud levels of 2% can lower the overall temperature of the Earth nearly .5 C according to some research.
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Post by latecommer on Oct 15, 2008 19:37:05 GMT
Dear Tom,
As you probably know Absolute Zero is a theoretical point where all molecular movement ceases, one that seems an imposibility to this point. Did you mean 0 degrees C?
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Post by Tom in Texas on Oct 16, 2008 0:17:26 GMT
From norpag: "The AMSU - A site reports that on Oct 12 the temperature at 3000' was 457.87 degrees F cooler than on the same day last year."
latecomer: 458F cooler should be close to absolute zero.
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Post by graywolf on Oct 21, 2008 17:24:23 GMT
We are on a planet of climatic variance, in the past these 'variations' were driven by 'natural' drivers. Unless you are with Leonites then our 'driving' of climate can be viewed as 'un-natural'. Sure we will have our 'normal' cooling phases. Sadly they will no longer produce the same level of 'cold' as previously they did. It takes more than 20yrs to warms the worlds oceans and deep sea currents and ,it would appear, 20yrs is all we get to do the job. in the meantime we carry on in our inimitable messy way stuffing the atmosphere full of substances to hold onto any infra red energy that comes our way. Pleaase don't let's have another 'will it snow in.....' discussion
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Post by eddix on Oct 21, 2008 17:53:42 GMT
Recently I read an article by Kh.I. Abdussamatov. Here is a quote from him........
c. Comment: RIA Novosti, August 25,2006: “Khabibullo Abdusamatov said he and his colleagues had concluded that a period of global cooling similar to one seen in the late 17th century – when canals froze in the Netherlands and people had to leave their dwellings in Greenland – could start in 2012-2105 and reach its peak in 2055-2060….He said he believed the future climate change would have very serious consequences and that authorities should start preparing for them today….”
There is something very interesting he also said in his article. He said to watch the ice caps on Mars as a precursor to our global cooling. He said that because Mars has no oceans that it will cool much quicker than earth .
Does anybody have a website that monitors the ice caps on Mars? It would be of interest to me.
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