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Post by nautonnier on Sept 11, 2009 9:37:47 GMT
Out of interest has there ever been a GISS 'correction' that did not result in more 'warming' ?
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Post by poitsplace on Sept 11, 2009 10:31:24 GMT
Out of interest has there ever been a GISS 'correction' that did not result in more 'warming' ? Sure, they knocked down 1998 which probably reduced the overall trend...but of course it also increased the correlation to the trend in CO2 increases. It is difficult to know what to make of Hansen's changes. Is he honestly doing the best he can to deal with the data? Is he fooling himself into thinking he's doing it right but adding a bias? Is he intentionally tweaking it into a warming trend because he thinks it's the right thing to do? Maybe he's just abusing it for his 15 minutes of fame with the foolish belief that even if AGW is wrong the premature switch to other forms of energy won't hurt anyone. Personally, I think he's trying his best but letting some of his own biases slip through. In the end (given the data) I have to say he'll go down in history as a well intentioned but delusional man...yes, the Lysenko of his time. Gore will probably be remembered less fondly though. For all the hype the climate has never shown anywhere near the sensitivities these two idiots are ranting about.
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Post by magellan on Sept 11, 2009 14:31:43 GMT
Out of interest has there ever been a GISS 'correction' that did not result in more 'warming' ? Yes, the past.
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Post by icefisher on Sept 12, 2009 3:10:49 GMT
GISS has updated their August update with changes all the way back to 1882 ;D If you're following their data, August should be 0.52, not 0.51. Clear your cache and re-download if necessary. I assume the changes were to...as always...increase the linearity of the data. Of course!! When the temps come in lower than historical temperature records suggests they should, that provides evidence that the historical data taken with archaic equipment was overstated. Remember what Jim Hansen keeps saying. Absolute temperature doesn't matter, its the trend that is important. Lowering 1882 temperatures aligns the data coming from inadequate 1882 science with the far better science coming from modern experts.
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Post by neilhamp on Sept 20, 2009 15:19:56 GMT
HadCRU is out. Shows a rise for this month to 0.53 This gives a mean for the first 8 months of 0.43 Only 1998, 2002, 2003, 2005 and 2007 are htter than 2009
Met office predicted 2009 will be in the top five warmest year since records began It is currently running at the sixth warmest year. How long is this El Nino going to hold out?
They are still claiming that 5 out of the next ten years will be greater than 1998 which HadCRU recorded as 0.53
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