N9AAT
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DON'T PANIC
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Post by N9AAT on Aug 11, 2009 1:08:59 GMT
I'm sitting here thinking about that report a couple of months ago that an Air Force satellite launch found the top of the atmosphere (ionosphere) much lower than expected, even for a solar saddle. If anyone forgot, here's a link: current.com/items/89644124_space-is-closer-than-we-thought.htmCould this explain the fireballs? What about sprites and spires and thunderstorms? Wouldn't a lowering and cooling upper atmosphere draw heat up out of the oceans/land? Katrina? Last year's tornado outbreak in the Midwest (and almost none this year 'cause the gradient got spent-out)
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Post by france on Aug 11, 2009 9:27:07 GMT
Those things come in 3's , usually. I imagine if we are getting extra stuff slamming into Earth, we'll have more than just one session of it, and it will happen at the most inopportune times. Be careful out there, Leif. may be Dr. Leif Svalgaard has an electric car, it's the reason why his car had a flat tire during this solar event.
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Post by france on Aug 11, 2009 9:53:05 GMT
I'm sitting here thinking about that report a couple of months ago that an Air Force satellite launch found the top of the atmosphere (ionosphere) much lower than expected, even for a solar saddle. If anyone forgot, here's a link: current.com/items/89644124_space-is-closer-than-we-thought.htmCould this explain the fireballs? What about sprites and spires and thunderstorms? Wouldn't a lowering and cooling upper atmosphere draw heat up out of the oceans/land? Katrina? Last year's tornado outbreak in the Midwest (and almost none this year 'cause the gradient got spent-out) tornados are rare this year because of El Nino coming back and oceans temperatures play a rule in this physical event (a paper given by Vukcevic related this climatic event with solar activity). The article you give about ionosphere is very interesting to bring closer of the previous Vukcevic showed and I add for the anecdote : japaneeses celebrate Tanabata festivities since 7 july until the first week of august (the date when Altaïr and Vega meet together separated by the arm of milky way)
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Post by brokenheadphonez on Aug 11, 2009 11:38:44 GMT
Thanks for the link... I'm just trying to understand everything. This is my learning process and other people are interested..
Dr. S - I really respect you, more than most - But please consider that we have different perspectives on things. Asking questions, finding answers - isn't THAT what science is?
Am I really deserving of snark?
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Post by france on Aug 11, 2009 20:30:13 GMT
To answer my own question "what happened with solar wind ?" a previous post should help here : solarcycle24com.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=754&page=10A question for Dr. L. Svalgaard You wrote that H an He are correled with the solar wind and that when speed of solar wind is faster no H or He are carried out because they are too heavy. Is it ok ? If you give an affirmative answer how could you explain the fact that on 08.07.09 STEREO save both He and H sending out and at the same time a gathering speed of solar wind here the graphs stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/browse/2009/08/07/insitu_7day.shtmlwe can see in better way on this one Thanks for your responses so may be He or H emissions were the cause of strong weather events on East of the Earth (hurricanes and earthquakes)
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Post by brokenheadphonez on Aug 11, 2009 23:23:18 GMT
My gut says the HE particles do stuff.
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Post by csspider57 on Aug 12, 2009 1:14:13 GMT
Good questions France and thanks for the link and graphs. stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/browse/2009/08/07/insitu_7day.shtmlHow about a new question? Is it the helium and or galactic cosmic rays causing the noctilucent clouds? (shimmering clouds) Anyone read of any new reports of noctilucent clouds around the Aug. 7, 2009.
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Post by brokenheadphonez on Aug 12, 2009 2:43:46 GMT
I'm not sure. I'm not confident in my cloudspotting abilities, but ... I've never seen clouds that high reflecting sunlight from below the horizon from that altitude, I must consider - was I not looking? :S
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Post by france on Sept 4, 2009 23:21:50 GMT
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Post by brokenheadphonez on Sept 5, 2009 13:27:03 GMT
Thanks! I've saved it and I'll print it out somewhere else on Monday (I have a hard time "digesting" papers on the computer). Much appreciated!!!
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