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Post by acidohm on Oct 19, 2017 21:06:10 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Oct 19, 2017 22:51:30 GMT
Good read acidohm, thanks. |
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Post by Ratty on Sept 1, 2018 3:16:47 GMT
I correspond occasionally with Jamal Munshi; he has asked if I would put a paper of his up for comments. Climate Change, Tropospheric Warming, and Stratospheric CoolingJamal Munshi, Sonoma State University
Date Written: August 25, 2018
Abstract
Climate models predict that rising atmospheric CO2 will simultaneously warm the troposphere and cool the stratosphere. This combination of tropospheric warming and stratospheric cooling is found in the observational data over a period of rising atmospheric CO2. Although strong correlations between these time series are found in the source data, the correlations do not survive into the detrended series at annual or five-year time scales. The absence of detrended correlation implies that the correlations seen in the source data derive from shared trends and not from responsiveness at annual or five-year time scales. The results are inconsistent with the theory that rising atmospheric CO2 simultaneously warms the troposphere and cools the lower stratosphere.More discussion here: Stratospheric Cooling |
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Post by acidohm on Sept 1, 2018 6:48:57 GMT
I correspond occasionally with Jamal Munshi; he has asked if I would put a paper of his up for comments. Climate Change, Tropospheric Warming, and Stratospheric CoolingJamal Munshi, Sonoma State University
Date Written: August 25, 2018
Abstract
Climate models predict that rising atmospheric CO2 will simultaneously warm the troposphere and cool the stratosphere. This combination of tropospheric warming and stratospheric cooling is found in the observational data over a period of rising atmospheric CO2. Although strong correlations between these time series are found in the source data, the correlations do not survive into the detrended series at annual or five-year time scales. The absence of detrended correlation implies that the correlations seen in the source data derive from shared trends and not from responsiveness at annual or five-year time scales. The results are inconsistent with the theory that rising atmospheric CO2 simultaneously warms the troposphere and cools the lower stratosphere.More discussion here: Stratospheric CoolingI love the use of this reference, fittingly top of the list due to being "A" Arrhenius, S. (1896). On the influence of carbonic acid in the air upon the temperature on the ground. The Philosophical Magazine , 41, 237-276. |
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Post by Ratty on Sept 1, 2018 9:42:17 GMT
I correspond occasionally with Jamal Munshi; he has asked if I would put a paper of his up for comments. Climate Change, Tropospheric Warming, and Stratospheric CoolingJamal Munshi, Sonoma State University
Date Written: August 25, 2018
Abstract
Climate models predict that rising atmospheric CO2 will simultaneously warm the troposphere and cool the stratosphere. This combination of tropospheric warming and stratospheric cooling is found in the observational data over a period of rising atmospheric CO2. Although strong correlations between these time series are found in the source data, the correlations do not survive into the detrended series at annual or five-year time scales. The absence of detrended correlation implies that the correlations seen in the source data derive from shared trends and not from responsiveness at annual or five-year time scales. The results are inconsistent with the theory that rising atmospheric CO2 simultaneously warms the troposphere and cools the lower stratosphere.More discussion here: Stratospheric Cooling, fittingly top of the list due to being "A" Arrhenius, S. (1896). On the influence of carbonic acid in the air upon the temperature on the ground. The Philosophical Magazine , 41, 237-276. Can you elaborate on your love, Acid?  |
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Post by acidohm on Sept 1, 2018 16:17:49 GMT
I love the use of this reference, fittingly top of the list due to being "A" Arrhenius, S. (1896). On the influence of carbonic acid in the air upon the temperature on the ground. The Philosophical Magazine , 41, 237-276. Can you elaborate on your love, Acid? Its the basis of modern climatology on a theory proposed 120 years ago. Have we really not discovered that much in this time?? Around this period was the dawn of our understanding about the atmosphere. It was only a few decades prior to this 2 guys in a ballon took measurement up to a height comparable to Everest, they damm near died of asphyxiation due to a lack if comprehension on the thin atmosphere at such heights! So yeah, having this paper at the top of a list of references is pretty funny, in an ironic kinda way. I don't doubt this is lost on the writer btw?? |
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