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Post by hunter on May 10, 2010 12:57:43 GMT
The one, accidental thing of interest from our newest troll is this: If the magnetic field is generated by something very massive, and if that mass could somehow shift around, then the magnetic field's movement could relate to the source's movement. If the mass was sufficient, it could disturb the rotation of the Earth. But if we look back at things that were built thousands of years ago that were designed to line up with Astronomical events like a solstice or a particular star, we see that the alignments are still good. Also, my bet is that the magnetic record would show dramatic changes that correlate to climate changes as well. Somehow I doubt this. But it is fun.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 11, 2010 1:37:10 GMT
The one, accidental thing of interest from our newest troll is this: If the magnetic field is generated by something very massive, and if that mass could somehow shift around, then the magnetic field's movement could relate to the source's movement. If the mass was sufficient, it could disturb the rotation of the Earth. But if we look back at things that were built thousands of years ago that were designed to line up with Astronomical events like a solstice or a particular star, we see that the alignments are still good. Also, my bet is that the magnetic record would show dramatic changes that correlate to climate changes as well. Somehow I doubt this. But it is fun. Stonehenge DO NOT align with solstices anymore, it did thousands years ago but not now. Any other example?
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Post by gfw on May 11, 2010 16:22:23 GMT
The alignments are good, as Hunter says, not perfect. Did anyone follow Gold's link? His support in the NYT was not a science article. It was a letter to the editor ... from a crank ... in 1915.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 11, 2010 16:35:17 GMT
The alignments are good, as Hunter says, not perfect. Did anyone follow Gold's link? His support in the NYT was not a science article. It was a letter to the editor ... from a crank ... in 1915. Another skeptic tank type dishonest logic Good not perfect..What does that mean? If its not dead on it dznt work, Stonehenge dont work proving that the Axis is different. Not a science article? A Crank? Any proof M. Kilmer was a crank? Science articles...University of East Anglia is well known for that...
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Post by hairball on May 11, 2010 18:23:35 GMT
"Good not perfect..What does that mean?" Newgrange was built 5,000 years ago and it's currently about 15 minutes out.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 11, 2010 18:42:40 GMT
the sun enters Newgrange around 9h15 thats long after sunrise
If its not dead on it means that the axis changed
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Post by hairball on May 11, 2010 19:17:57 GMT
Precession and a lengthened day can account for it I believe.
The building is in a valley, so the sunrise is a little late.
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Post by hunter on May 11, 2010 19:27:25 GMT
'If it is not perfect, it dznt work'....work for what?
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Post by nobodyinparticular on May 11, 2010 20:50:32 GMT
PLEASE START A NEW THREAD. The last time I checked this message board topic was "Arctic Ice: Winter 2010."
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Post by ron on May 12, 2010 7:01:45 GMT
Molten Iron spinning inside the earth's/sun's variable magnetic field... where ARE my articles on induction heating and electromagnetism??
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Post by kiwistonewall on May 12, 2010 11:44:25 GMT
Dont worry, the real ice-heads have moved to summer ice. Let the trolls have their fun! ;D
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Post by latecommer on May 13, 2010 18:26:46 GMT
Most people in general and some here as well have a very small time frame in mind when talking about Arctic Ice. At least no alarmists have declared that sea levels will rise due to ice melting. (you know the kind...they drink their mixed drink quickly so it won't overflow the glass) What is not talked about enough is that there have been many times in the past when there was no ice at all in the Arctic. Redwood trees grew on the shores of the Arctic Ocean. (I personally drilled cores from stumps on Ellesmere Island some years ago... about 80 degrees north) Some researchers have found evidence of perhaps,dozens of times in the past with an ice free pole. When a long view is used, the trifling yearly changes we see now are put into perspective...for everyone but the true believers. ( but they are religious wing nuts anyway.)
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 15, 2010 13:10:53 GMT
If you didnt have Ice at the traditional pole, you did elsewhere. Proof that the Earth axis-tilt is changing
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Post by stranger on May 15, 2010 22:21:48 GMT
Chuckle. Gold, look up "leap seconds" and why they are necessary.
Stranger
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Post by scpg02 on May 16, 2010 0:47:08 GMT
If you didnt have Ice at the traditional pole, you did elsewhere. Proof that the Earth axis-tilt is changing Yes the Earth has a wobble. This is why we have precession. If we didn't have the moon, the wobble would be out of control. We are losing the moon as it is moving farther away.
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