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Post by nonentropic on Apr 25, 2021 1:18:34 GMT
Yes, you get the point totally. If you look at clouds and the way models don't include the biggest, alright 2nd biggest influence on temperature there is a problem. The variables associated with cloud are as follows but not limited to the following. time of day, altitude, season, latitude proximity to land/water, wind flow from tropics to tropics, etc., etc. may be a further 20 drivers. Plus some operate to lift global and some reduce it.
So in my mind unresolvable with a strong risk that confirmational bias will allow a dialable outcome and we have seen a lot of that to date. The metric needs to be unimpeachable and easily measured with satellites so spacially unconstrained. Not some low-density proxy begging for homogenization. Mannipulation.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 24, 2021 23:49:45 GMT
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 24, 2021 23:45:44 GMT
Panama paper Kerry is a disgrace.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 24, 2021 23:35:35 GMT
But how can we track the areal extent?
look during the ice age the Sahara would have been dryer if the Hadley cells became narrower, (this is a question really) and if the world warmed as per the early Holocene or the warmer Emian it should have been wetter??? that is the test in a sense if this is correct. the Sahara gets a monsoon swipe every year or not. the south of the Sahara does currently.
Can we track the area on planet earth between the divergent zones through time and see anything outside of the noise?
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 24, 2021 20:25:33 GMT
Been thinking about how you work out what the climate is doing at any particular moment and we look at the ENSO stuff and the SOI plus other signals and from there come up with ideas as to what will happen in the future, and to quote someone "predictions are tricky, especially about the future". or something.
From the continuous flow of stuff on this site very especially MB and Naut it's clear to me that where the tropical convergent zone is and its consequent rain belt which is fueled by an airflow under the Hadley cell constrained by the divergent zone where dry air descends and moves both ways. The width of the Hadley cell in my view defines if the climate is in a warm or cold phase. Wide warm, narrow cold. It's the global airconditioning system and Willis E had a graphic on one of his papers (lost to me) that defined the net-zero inward/outward radiation line in the NH and SH unsurprisingly about where the divergent zones were. Is there any way to aggregate the latitudinal wind's direction and energy so as to track through time the area of the globe between the divergent zones? It may be an indicator of global warming and cooling. We know that the tropics are temperature stable largely through 20C climate fluctuations from ice ages to hot phases and under the Hadley cells plus a bit for seasonal flux live the happiest of folk on earth, is it getting bigger or smaller. Not sure if this is clear?
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 24, 2021 3:23:38 GMT
we cant call it "Maunder" it needs a fresh name a competition for the new epoch.
The "Gore minima". Goes with his brain maybe.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 23, 2021 23:03:01 GMT
In old speak, Africa in the '70s tractors was code for tanks is that what you meant?
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 23, 2021 20:16:32 GMT
The problem in Australia will not be a shortage of rope it will be a shortage of trees.
They smell quickly in that climate also.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 23, 2021 20:12:57 GMT
My godfather had an experience similar but also interesting, being a keen fisherman he traveled all of NZ with a rod and tackle. One day he drove over a bridge where a large number of people had rods with lines in the water. thinking there was a run or something on he quickly stopped and joined them with his rod. After about half an hour a bus pulled up and they wound their lines in all without hooks and they boarded the bus back to the mental institution after their days' outing of "normalization" the driver asked why he was not joining them not seeing any distinction. He was more careful in the future.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 23, 2021 19:59:47 GMT
Smart guy He taught at a number of schools during his time as a priest, a friend was taught by him. After his father's death very soon, he left the priesthood and went into both commercial life oil exploration where I met him and research he writes and talks well.
he will not be top of the pops.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 23, 2021 1:47:52 GMT
so these didn't happen when the ice was more extensive such as during the period 60 to 80. BS!
I call region as its once again an indisputable hypothesis.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 22, 2021 4:34:59 GMT
Naut your back it's a collective IQ thing you are key. (as are the rest.)
I intend to visit my wife just a week ago said we need to go to Florida and I said lets.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 20, 2021 18:56:13 GMT
It's the claim of the "greatest pandemic in 100yrs" not the lack of deaths.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 20, 2021 3:49:26 GMT
yes trees
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 18, 2021 18:46:11 GMT
will it be a clean sweep we all lost
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