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Post by icefisher on Sept 26, 2009 14:54:53 GMT
It's surprising that you don't seem to have even an ounce of skepticism towards this pdf document published by a think-tank. A little known fact in this world is that think-tanks sometimes publish allegations that are not true. I know, I know, it's hard to believe that a think-tank, the kind of organization people associate with honesty and truth, would resort to spin and propaganda, but sometimes they do. Sometimes (shock horror) they even lie. Did they in this case? Well here's an alternate view on the matter that shows this isn't a clear cut case: "Dr. Taylor retired from the Nunavut government last year and was replaced on the Polar Bear Specialist Group by Dr. Lily Peacock. Further, Dr. Taylor was not re-appointed the to the PBSG by the Canadian government that decided to appoint 3 other people to the PBSG meeting here in Copenhagen. Involvement with the PBSG is restricted to those active in polar bear research and management and Dr. Taylor no longer fits within our guidelines of involvement. Dr. Taylor years ago was involved in drafting the rules that govern our Group - we are restricted to 20 members of which 15 are appointed by the 5 nations with polar bears in their range and 5 members are appointed by the Chair. I appointed 5 people that are active in polar bear issues on an ongoing basis. It was an unfortunate article and it was grossly misleading. For example, I never was a student of Dr. Taylor's and for him to suggest so is more than a little surprising to me. I have know Dr. Taylor for over 25 years but I can assure you that at no point did he ever supervise me in any capacity. I am unsure what the intent of Dr. Taylor's comments were but I can assure you that the PBSG has broad representation. Given the 20 members and my appointing of only 5, it is largely up to the 5 nations to construct the Group that I Chair. The Chair position rotates by nation - my term is up and it will be up to the next Chair to appoint 5 members because my term will end and my membership in the PBSG will end. I will also note that our former Chair, Scott Schliebe of the US Fish and Wildlife Service is not attending this meeting. He also retired in 2008 and is no longer active in the field. I hope this clarifies the situation some. This meeting is about coordinating ongoing and future research and management. Dr. Taylor is no longer in a position to assist with such issues. The PBSG has heard Dr. Taylor's views on climate warming many times. I would note that Dr. Taylor is not a trained climatologist and his perspectives are not relevant to the discussions and intent of this meeting." scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/07/christopher_bookers_misinforma.phpI am sure that the final report of the group for the 2009 meeting that Dr. Taylor was disinvited to. . . .that climate change was threatening the existance of polar bears had absolutely nothing to do with the decision. . . .right Socold? LOL! |
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Post by itsthesunstupid on Sept 26, 2009 16:26:16 GMT
Back to Jim Hanson who reminds me of Jim Henson (creator of the Muppets - R.I.P.) because both manipulate things that don't really exist. Henson used to play the role of Kermit. Hanson would play the part of Fozzy Bear.
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Post by icefisher on Sept 26, 2009 18:50:56 GMT
I am sure that the final report of the group for the 2009 meeting that Dr. Taylor was disinvited to. . . .that climate change was threatening the existance of polar bears had absolutely nothing to do with the decision. . . .right Socold? LOL! And of course here is the conclusion of the meeting the skeptic was disinvited to. "OUTCOME OF MEETING *** Climate change has a negative impact on polar bears and their habitat and is the most important long term threat facing polar bears. Action to mitigate this threat is beyond the scope of the Polar Bear Agreement. Climate change affects every nation on the earth and reaches well beyond the five parties to the agreement so the parties look to other fora and national and international mechanisms to take appropriate action to address climate change." No research going on here just a political statement, one needs to quiet dissent for such a statement. |
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Post by dopeydog on Oct 4, 2009 11:27:34 GMT
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Post by dopeydog on Oct 7, 2009 12:00:50 GMT
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Post by magellan on Oct 7, 2009 13:06:27 GMT
Back to Jim Hanson who reminds me of Jim Henson (creator of the Muppets - R.I.P.) because both manipulate things that don't really exist. Henson used to play the role of Kermit. Hanson would play the part of Fozzy Bear. Hmm....  |
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Post by itsthesunstupid on Oct 7, 2009 14:22:05 GMT
Back to Jim Hanson who reminds me of Jim Henson (creator of the Muppets - R.I.P.) because both manipulate things that don't really exist. Henson used to play the role of Kermit. Hanson would play the part of Fozzy Bear. Hmm.... I bow to your superior application of cartoon references! ;D |
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Post by dopeydog on Oct 22, 2009 11:42:17 GMT
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Post by hunter on Oct 22, 2009 12:29:41 GMT
We are witnessing the point of silliness in the AGW community. They have confabulated a whole ethos of carbon crusading that is the equivalent of debating about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. |
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Post by dopeydog on Oct 23, 2009 11:32:06 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Oct 29, 2009 14:21:40 GMT
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Post by socold on Oct 30, 2009 0:57:09 GMT
It's regurgitated rubbish. Check the PDF date, it's from november 2008 - so hardly news. Also Abdussamatov's claims were put up on that blog back in march 2007: wattsupwiththat.com/2007/03/04/huh-imagine-that/So this is just a play to imply something has changed when it hasn't. Same Abdussamatov, same wrong claims. |
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 30, 2009 1:32:28 GMT
It's regurgitated rubbish. Check the PDF date, it's from november 2008 - so hardly news. Also Abdussamatov's claims were put up on that blog back in march 2007: wattsupwiththat.com/2007/03/04/huh-imagine-that/So this is just a play to imply something has changed when it hasn't. Same Abdussamatov, same wrong claims. I knew it would happen sooner or later.....SoCold.......we AGREE. |
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 30, 2009 1:33:11 GMT
It's regurgitated rubbish. Check the PDF date, it's from november 2008 - so hardly news. Also Abdussamatov's claims were put up on that blog back in march 2007: wattsupwiththat.com/2007/03/04/huh-imagine-that/So this is just a play to imply something has changed when it hasn't. Same Abdussamatov, same wrong claims. I knew it would happen sooner or later.....SoCold.......we AGREE. Now the question is....how much colder does it have to get before we agree again?  ? |
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Post by poitsplace on Oct 30, 2009 5:27:07 GMT
Now the question is....how much colder does it have to get before we agree again? ? Probably not until the mainstream media starts saying Hansen is the Lysenko of our time |
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