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Post by byz on Sept 19, 2008 19:38:17 GMT
Well in the southern uk we look like we could get our first frost of the year this weekend !
This is the earliest since 2001 (1st september then).
To have the frost this early is more like the 1970's (I have a gardening book from then and it says frosts should occur from mid September).
in 2006 we didn't have a frost until December (we went to Rome last week of October and it was like early September).
In 2007 we didn't get our first frost until mid October.
Are we getting colder? ;D
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Post by socold on Sept 20, 2008 2:00:43 GMT
Frost with min night temperatures at about 8C?
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Post by kiwistonewall on Sept 20, 2008 3:11:06 GMT
Socold -
Yes, Frost can form when Min Temperature (a few feet from the ground) is >0C. In fact, where I grew up, frosts were common, but minimum temps were never below 3-5 Celsius (except in the 1950's)
Just google Frost & study up if you don't believe.
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Post by socold on Sept 20, 2008 3:35:46 GMT
Thanks did, quite a lot more complex than I assumed.
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Post by peakoil on Sept 20, 2008 9:21:24 GMT
Well in the southern uk we look like we could get our first frost of the year this weekend ! This is the earliest since 2001 (1st september then). To have the frost this early is more like the 1970's (I have a gardening book from then and it says frosts should occur from mid September). in 2006 we didn't have a frost until December (we went to Rome last week of October and it was like early September). In 2007 we didn't get our first frost until mid October. Are we getting colder? ;D which area of the UK are you in?
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Post by byz on Sept 20, 2008 21:20:53 GMT
I'm in the south east and we are getting an air frost (not ground);
I can see from my plant leaves that they are suffering frost damage.
Plants don't lie (unlike thermometres placed next to air cons!)
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Post by peakoil on Sept 20, 2008 22:15:37 GMT
i'm in the south east as well. i better keep an eye on my plants.
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Post by walterdnes on Sept 21, 2008 16:52:37 GMT
i'm in the south east as well. i better keep an eye on my plants. Somewhat OT, what's Derby like these days? I was born there Oct, 1951. My parents and I emigrated to Canada in April 1955. I have very few memories of my time in England, and I'm not 100% sure they're real. BTW, I understand it's supposed to be pronounced as "Darby".
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Post by byz on Sept 21, 2008 20:00:21 GMT
i'm in the south east as well. i better keep an eye on my plants. Somewhat OT, what's Derby like these days? I was born there Oct, 1951. My parents and I emigrated to Canada in April 1955. I have very few memories of my time in England, and I'm not 100% sure they're real. BTW, I understand it's supposed to be pronounced as "Darby". My sister in law live near to Derby and I have only been to Derby once, I won't be going again it's a bit grim. However I work in central London so most places look drab after parts of London, however if you want to see a lovely city go and see Bath or Wells they are beautiful.
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Post by bevhills on Sept 23, 2008 0:56:10 GMT
The weather folks are predicting a warmer than usual fall for most of the U.S. I disagree in particular with the upper midwest and New England which I believe will be colder than usual.
"The Climate Prediction Center forecasts that most of the USA should enjoy a warmer-than-average fall, with the greatest likelihood of unusual warmth across New England and southern parts of Texas, New Mexico and Arizona. Only the Southeast, Northwest, and California are expected to have equal chances of a warmer- or cooler-than-average fall season. This means the climate signal wasn't strong enough to determine what the temperatures should be in those locations for the season.
As for precipitation, the areas with the highest chance of a wet autumn are across northern New England and South Florida. The rest of the nation should see average amounts of precipitation."
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Post by tacoman25 on Sept 23, 2008 19:05:47 GMT
I predict that most of the U.S. will have a cooler than normal fall (already, September has been cooler than normal across the mid-section of the country). I think the best chance of warmer than normal temperatures in October will be in the Southeast and Southwest.
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Post by byz on Sept 27, 2008 8:39:06 GMT
Well it's already been cold here but no ground frost yet. September looks like it will be average for the 1970-2000, which is colder than the last few years. I hope we get a white Christmas or some snow the week before (always looks good with the Christmas decorations). I can but dream ;D
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Post by byz on Oct 22, 2008 9:11:47 GMT
Well last night here in Caterham (southern England) we had our first ground frost. This is earlier than last year and boy was it cold this morning The synoptic charts are showing that we might get an Arctic blast on Sunday.
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Post by byz on Oct 27, 2008 7:23:27 GMT
Since Autumn seems to be coming to an end in the UK as of tonight I thought I'd change the threads name as I want members to document this years winter as it hits ;D Snow ramping is welcome here. Are we going to get a White Christmas (might be a wipe out Christmas due to the credit crunch!). So as you see Winter turn up let us know
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Post by shocker0 on Oct 30, 2008 6:05:16 GMT
Since Autumn seems to be coming to an end in the UK as of tonight I thought I'd change the threads name as I want members to document this years winter as it hits ;D Snow ramping is welcome here. Are we going to get a White Christmas (might be a wipe out Christmas due to the credit crunch!). So as you see Winter turn up let us know Hi, first time here. Anyway, I live in Tennessee, in the southeast US. We had some flurries on Monday night as the temps got down to 30 degrees farenheight. It only stuck to the cars but was not heavy enough to stay around. However, it was the earliest I had ever seen it snow in my whole life of living around here. Also, in the mountains, most places received 4+ inches of snow, which was also rare. One ski resort was planning to open Wednesday, which would be the earliest it had ever opened (I'm not sure if it actually did end up opening). We usually do not even see flurries until very late November here, and the average high this time of year is about 67 degrees, and the average low is about 42. Well, on Monday it never got above 43 degrees, and the past few nights have been down into the upper 20s, near record lows, if not records themselves. Also, in the DEEP south (Florida), many places were expected to freeze last night according to the weather channel, which said that the normal freeze for the northern/central areas of Florida does not occur until December. I don't know if you are familiar with Florida, but it is typically a warm state, and these were record lows. The weather channel also stated that there were 22 record highs this week, and 176 record lows, with more record lows coming after they gathered in yesterday and today's reports. This is in stark contrast to the data they displayed from 2000-2007 where The # of record highs easily outnumbered the # of record lows 2 to 1. Anyway, we are supposed to warm up next week to temperatures slightly above average (upper 60s for highs, mid 40s for low), but there looks to be another cold front coming late next week. Either way, it's been cold lately, with our average January temperatures occuring in late October, very unusual.
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