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Post by glennkoks on Apr 29, 2012 21:13:08 GMT
phydeaux2363, I agree that Mr. Obama is no "friend" to the oil and gas industry. With that being said I don't think he has plans to destroy it either. I also agree that politics is and always has been rough and tumble. It's up to the voter to wade through the B.S. and judge candidates by their actions and voting records and not necessarily their words.
I also think that with the House firmly in the grip of the GOP and a very weak grasp of the Senate Mr. Obama will have a very tough row to hoe trying to "destroy" the oil and gas industry as the video claims.
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 29, 2012 22:35:49 GMT
President Obama has a different set of values than most Americans. Some of these differences have shown slightly during his 1st administration. What he can't get through Congress, he does be executive order.
An example of stupid is the Child Labor Laws concerning farms. Yes, this has been withdrawn, but it is an election year.
What is problematic is what will be done by executive order during a 2nd administration.
The EPA will publish MACT rules concerning CO2 and coal fired power plants very soon. So far, it has been held up, but we are on notice that it is coming.
Diligent folks understand this, however, most folks are not diligent. They are concerned with who the latest celebrity is....etc...etc. They do not care to understand the economic cliff that the USA is on at this time.
And because politicians are more interested in getting re-elected, they are not campaigning on this either.
A mess no matter how you want to look at it.
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Post by glennkoks on Apr 29, 2012 22:58:14 GMT
sigurdur, agreed. But was Obama directly responsible for the child labor laws concerning farms? Or did it come from elsewhere? My argument is he has not been the boogie man many were making him out to be.
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 30, 2012 1:47:01 GMT
glenn:
It came from folks within his administration. It is the mindset that you have to question. Regulations promoted by someone who has never visited a farm, and does not understand the dynamics of a farm etc.
This is what I find troublesome. The Food Security Act that was passed a few years ago is nutso as well. The regualtions that had been put on the back burner concerning fuel storage tanks is another idea that is nutso. Yes, it was proposed while GWB was president, but it was put off because it was stupid. The Obama EPA would not let it be put off again.
The MACT regulations concerning mercury were also nutso and based on Mercury levels on the eastern and western CONUS. What they didn't look at was that the ocean emits mercury.
The MACT regulations concerning CO2 are really nutso. CO2 is NOT this big bad boogy man. Yes, it is a greenhouse gas, but it isn't that super duper greenhouse gas that some want to portray it as. Actual measurements show that the energy imbalance is not .9W2m......but rather .5. That really screws up a lot of models, but maybe they can be re-written to what is really happening verses what they "think" is happening.
I really wish the AGW movement was more forthright and honest.
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Post by trbixler on Apr 30, 2012 14:19:09 GMT
When you are in charge and have a giant bureaucracy at your disposal your random thoughts become reality. Skyrocket coal power costs and indeed it does and disappears. Push wind farms and they appear. Now looks like not only do they eat tax dollars but cause global warming to boot. Regulate and spend like crazy. Parties in Vegas parties in Columbia. Got to keep up the morale or was that the morality. Unemployment what unemployment?
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Post by curiousgeorge on Apr 30, 2012 14:55:41 GMT
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Post by ebrainsh on Apr 30, 2012 19:40:02 GMT
UPDATE: A top EPA official has resigned after coming under scrutiny for 2010 remarks in which he compared the agency's enforcement strategy to Roman crucifixion. Al Armendariz, the top environmental official in the oil-rich South and Southwest region, resigned in a letter to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson on Sunday, saying he did not want to be a distraction for the agency. The resignation is effective Monday. Read more: www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/30/top-epa-official-resigns-after-crucify-comment/#ixzz1tYR0Wwfv |
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Post by curiousgeorge on Apr 30, 2012 19:53:28 GMT
What, the EPA can't use monkeys? I guess they would have taken too much heat from PETA.  From: The Honorable Dana Rohrabacher
Date: 4/27/2012
EPA Compromises the Integrity of Science
Dear Colleague:
“Which do you find more shocking: that the Environmental Protection Agency conducts experiments on humans that its own risk assessment would deem potentially lethal, or that it hides the results of those experiments from Congress and the public because they debunk those very same assessments?”
This critical question forms the basis for the attached Washington Times article: “Did Obama’s EPA relaunch Tuskegee experiments?” By Steve Milloy.
Moreover, this is one more piece of evidence that EPA uses science to play games, manipulate data, and generate faulty outcomes to justify their regulations. Here is a compelling example that highlights faulty science: “EPA researchers who conducted the experiments published the case study of the 58-year woman in the government journal Environmental Health Perspectives in which they casually disregard the woman’s preexisting conditions and blame her atrial fibrillation on PM2.2. They also failed to disclose the existence- let alone the results – of the other 40 experiments.”
If you are interested in understanding how the EPA continues to compromise the integrity of science, please read the full article here: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/24/did-obamas-epa-relaunch-tuskegee-experiments/.
In Freedom,
/s/
Dana Rohrabacher
Member of Congress
wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/30/the-epa-and-undisclosed-human-experimentation/ |
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Post by glennkoks on Apr 30, 2012 22:42:14 GMT
UPDATE: A top EPA official has resigned after coming under scrutiny for 2010 remarks in which he compared the agency's enforcement strategy to Roman crucifixion. Al Armendariz, the top environmental official in the oil-rich South and Southwest region, resigned in a letter to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson on Sunday, saying he did not want to be a distraction for the agency. The resignation is effective Monday. It sounds like perhaps Mr. Armendariz does not speak for the Obama admin and a little heat came from above. ] |
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Post by trbixler on May 1, 2012 0:34:43 GMT
UPDATE: A top EPA official has resigned after coming under scrutiny for 2010 remarks in which he compared the agency's enforcement strategy to Roman crucifixion. Al Armendariz, the top environmental official in the oil-rich South and Southwest region, resigned in a letter to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson on Sunday, saying he did not want to be a distraction for the agency. The resignation is effective Monday. It sounds like perhaps Mr. Armendariz does not speak for the Obama admin and a little heat came from above. ] Only after it made the press. This is an election year. |
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Post by magellan on Jun 15, 2012 16:58:23 GMT
sigurdur, agreed. But was Obama directly responsible for the child labor laws concerning farms? Or did it come from elsewhere? My argument is he has not been the boogie man many were making him out to be. Wow. Take the rose colored glasses off. The guy was raised by Communists/Marxists, surrounded himself by others in radical groups during his college years, hooked up with Bill Ayers and other radicals who launched his political career. He joined the New Party in 1996. He has said the Constitution is a road block to Progress because it only limits what the government cannot do. Skip forward to 2009 after his inauguration. He wants to "fundamentally transform" America. He has populated his administration with Communists, Maoists and all other sorts of anti-American anti-Capitalists. His recent speech in Kansas revealed precisely what he is all about. We have Obamacare looming. Whether the SCOTUS kills it or not is not the point. Will we ever get to see his college transcripts? What is he hiding? There is no question Obama is a Marxist, but you don't think he's a danger to America? This is no longer arguable despite many attributing him as being "centrist". What are you smoking? He has said in effect Congress is irrelevant and he will use regulation and by fiat make law; all against the Constitution. But like Obama said, the Constitution is just a bump in the road; it means nothing to him. Just today it was announced Obama will give Amnesty to illegals, and out of the other side of his mouth he says there are laws he must uphold. BS. But you say he isn't the bogey man people think he is. Pertaining to this video, you painted a broad brush that it was basically nonsense. Well maybe you should think about a things in it that are 100% factual; I will mention just one for now. In the video, he states (paraphrased) "....make cheap energy expensive so that expensive energy seems cheap". Think about that for a moment and what Obama has promised he will do to the price of electricity, and referred to "fossil fuels" as the "fuel of the past". What part of that don't you understand? In the next 12 months electricity rates are going to sky rocket; ours in Michigan have risen dramatically just this past year! Has Obama approved the Keystone Pipeline yet? Not some watered down phony election year promise, but an actual signed sealed and delivered approval? Obama is a one man human wrecking ball. |
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Post by glennkoks on Jun 15, 2012 18:15:33 GMT
"Wow. Take the rose colored glasses off. The guy was raised by Communists/Marxists, surrounded himself by others in radical groups during his college years, hooked up with Bill Ayers and other radicals who launched his political career."
magellan your rant sounds familar. Did you get that from Joseph Mccarthy?
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Post by trbixler on Jun 17, 2012 2:09:02 GMT
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Post by glennkoks on Jun 17, 2012 3:24:58 GMT
tribixler, I did not take you for a birther? Certainly the hardcopies and microfiche copies of Mr. Obamas birth announcement from 1961 trump that jacket? I mean how did they get original hard copies in libraries around the world?
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Post by trbixler on Jun 17, 2012 13:50:47 GMT
tribixler, I did not take you for a birther? Certainly the hardcopies and microfiche copies of Mr. Obamas birth announcement from 1961 trump that jacket? I mean how did they get original hard copies in libraries around the world? It is not a question of a "birther" it is more of a notation of a person who may not tell the truth. I guess that one cannot take Obama at his own words no matter how you want to spin the story. |
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