Climate Shifts Dec 12, 2012 18:43:26 GMT
Post by karlox on Dec 12, 2012 18:43:26 GMT
As Karlox points out it is the organisations that are being prodded not the end product.
We all know the issues associated with the end product but the conduct of the compaies exploiting the resource? Is that behaviour the thing that runs the cars, fuels the economy, lights the hospitals?
You stand alone if you think that you would just shrug and say "that's the price for living this way" if your grandkids developed illness by being forced to live on Brownfield sites stuffed full of toxic wastes. As Karlox highlights West Africa springs to mind.
And if the execs of such comp's will visibly pollute and contaminate our wild places what of their 'invisible pollution'?
You would also be dismayed at the compensation doled out to the folk of my area killed by Asbestosis. The last of them are going now, they were the babes of the parents who worked the mills and whose only crimes were to hug their parents as they returned from those mills covered in a days worth of dust.
This was the price of the gas masks, the school insulation, the industrial needs. Why should they be compensated eh?
Graywolf, makes me happy that you´ve got my point... I sort of quitted with the idea that increasing CO2 emissions is the biggest problem humanity can face and just read it as the real "measure" of our uncouncioussness and ovegrall greed, which I firmly believe is leading us to pain, famine and disaster, well it´s a figure... but once you see the politics behind... well, then i´d rather talk on Hungry, exteme poverty, water supplies, oppression, corruption, war industry, conflicts, wars to come, and why not talk about the LESS than 1% of earths population that is really controlling and ruling our Global economy and world, besides democracy... which is much in danger indeed.
Where are you from Graywolf? You refer to asbestosis... and we could refer to that many manouevers big companies have always been producing to enlarge beneficts either cutting down lyfe-spam or their products (programmed obsolescence) or delaying new better products til squeezing until last drop older technology... such as they will proceed with fossil-fuels... no matter Kyoto or whatever, til they get last drop of oill off the Artic or Antartic they won´t stop... Don´t like it, but it is going to happen... to compensate this I do belive alternate "green" power supplies deserve government and private support to keep on investigating and investing...
But -the way thins actually are- I don´t care much about CO2, but I do care a lot about how much No2, CO, SO2 etc... are we breathing and could stand.
I had one of my best life years living and studying in CA, USA, and I feel I quite understand the so called mean American type and mentality... which is really rich and varied by its own american nature... I am even able to see commont points in some Tea-Party-alike foundations and those based on Libertarians spirit, which are both profoundly American, they like it or not.
What surprises me is how personal and political and rude can get discussions on this forum... we´d rather say, share and learn and listen and exchange views... Nice to see you around!