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Post by nautonnier on Apr 27, 2014 18:08:38 GMT
The deception is getting really old. This has moved from simple deception to malfeasance and there is nobody sufficiently ethical in the UK Met Office to say so. In the US this would move into RICO territory.
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 27, 2014 18:22:03 GMT
The deception is getting really old. This has moved from simple deception to malfeasance and there is nobody sufficiently ethical in the UK Met Office to say so. In the US this would move into RICO territory. With the current administration? Good luck on that idea Nautonnier.
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Post by zaphod on Aug 30, 2014 20:05:27 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 1, 2014 0:53:41 GMT
Ok.....I am still laughing at Julia Sliiiiiiiingo.
Only in Britain could such vanity survive.
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Post by zaphod on Oct 8, 2014 18:34:39 GMT
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Post by cuttydyer on Oct 8, 2014 19:06:38 GMT
They should have picked a star a little less influential to our planet, then when they get their forecasting / modeling completely wrong very few if any would notice...
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Post by acidohm on Oct 8, 2014 20:21:58 GMT
It may be an opening to a position of.....'of course since we started observing the sun more...It is interesting to see the complex way it interacts with our climate...This would never have been possible if we had not put the resources into such observations'
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Post by icefisher on Oct 11, 2014 7:14:59 GMT
Folks locally have noted that we are back on El Nino watch. My comment in the conversation was NOAA has zero skill in predicting ENSO. The prediction of El Nino is in fact not NOAA but a consortium of NOAA, NOAA's NWS, and their "funded institutions". The whole show is essentially run by Columbia University the home of James Hansen.
It is a well known fact in some circles (like any profession) that academia can't beat its way out of a paper bag on any topic. Its not really an insult of the intelligence of the academic community but instead is more reflective of the fact that ingenuity really needs to meet the real world before stuff happens and academia is more than ever ensconced in little cubicles surrounded by books (and in the modern era electronics) rather than nature. The only people with budgets to go out into the real world are folks totally unaccountable to their funding sources, folks who control large amounts of funding dollars for their institutions. . . .in essence a lot of feudal-like autocracies.
Small wonder why little science actually gets done in the government-funded science circles.
I am already convinced that Astromet is on to something. Sure there might be an "official" El Nino yet to come where that little postage stamp sized zone in the middle of the Pacific meets the "official" benchmark for El Nino. Technically that would cause an error for Astromet should it come to pass. But if it comes to pass in the manner currently predicted by NOAA and its "funded institutions", I am going to still grade it a win for Astromet because the current "official" prediction is for an El Nino that remains below 1.0 degrees. In some circles that might not even be an El Nino, for example, Australia has a higher standard for an El Nino than NOAA does.
Even then I am doubting an El Nino is going to occur. We have no ENSO records for the early 20th century solar minimums that occurred, much less the Dalton or Maunder minimums. All records we have have occurred during the solar grand maximum that has occurred over the last 80 some odd years. Even the cold phases of the ocean oscillations are being affected. Its really hard to grasp for me why no El Nino occurred this year. I can't remember a stronger El Nino-like ocean current event than what we passed through this summer without reaching an El Nino standard. It seems rather clear that we are in a zone we have not been in during my lifetime and I am having a very difficult time trying to figure out any explanation for it that could possibly be linked to anthropogenic global warming.
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 11, 2014 11:14:14 GMT
There is a desperation in some circles for a short up-tick in temperatures it only has to last a month or so just before the Paris get-together to sign another industry killing treaty so the politicians can get more power and Goldman Sachs can make another killing on carbon credits. Expect more 'adjustments' of the global temperature anomaly datasets, they will make 2015 the hottest year evah even if they have to delay the warming out of the Little Ice Age to do it. This is why the more detailed checking on the Australian BOM and their apparently rather ham-fisted 'adjustments' to routine observations, is so important. Although, even if the WMO can be shown to have massaged figures to 'improve' their case on AGW, I don't know that there is anyone left in world governments anywhere with the ethics to do anything about it.
Politicians want the AGW scare to be true so they can increase their power and get more taxes; bankers who are looking at a big hole in finances with fiat currencies crumbling want to have a new way to screw money out of everyone. None of these people are likely to support an inquiry to find out the truth of what is going on.
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Post by zaphod on Oct 28, 2014 1:43:39 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 28, 2014 2:12:31 GMT
We shall see. Depends on how far the rope swings and if it is dripping.
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Post by magellan on Oct 28, 2014 3:14:34 GMT
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Post by scpg02 on Oct 28, 2014 4:53:29 GMT
Piers is more accurate than the met.
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Post by acidohm on Oct 28, 2014 6:27:56 GMT
The Met Office said there was a 25-30% probability that the UK would see “well-above-average” rainfall this winter of 430mm or more .
Read also: Driest September on record but water reserves ‘normal’
But there was only a 15% chance the country would experience a drier than normal winter, with under 305mm of rainfall.
However, the Met Office said there were still “substantial probabilities” that average or opposite conditions, such as cool, dry weather, may occur.
“This is because there are many competing factors that determine what our weather will be like in the coming months,” it explained.
“The outlook also highlights an increased risk of unsettled weather relative to what is usual for the time of year, but – again – there are still reasonable chances of other scenarios.”
The official met office winter outlook...good to see they have covered all options, I predict at least one of these scenarios will prove to be correct!
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Post by neilhamp on Oct 28, 2014 7:28:10 GMT
I have just listened to the Today program in the UK I caught the back end of an interview with a Met.Office spokesman He was asked if this year would be the hottest year ever I presume he was talking about the UK Does anyone have any data?
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