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Post by sigurdur on Jul 24, 2016 16:42:47 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 25, 2016 0:41:39 GMT
Now ... if all the 'climate scientists' laid off the sauce for a while?
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Post by Ratty on Jul 25, 2016 2:28:08 GMT
Did I read or see somewhere that Spencer is a creationist?
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Post by icefisher on Jul 25, 2016 3:20:51 GMT
Did I read or see somewhere that Spencer is a creationist? He has described himself as such, and also has noted that what believes about the creation is completely compatible with science. A wise man is a man who holds a system of beliefs about the unknown and knows what is known. There are some morons who believe that science rules out creationism. But to do that you need to adopt a narrow-minded definition of creationism that is incompatible with science.
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Post by Ratty on Jul 25, 2016 6:43:56 GMT
Well, I'm certainly a wise man ..... or should be, at my age. 
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Post by icefisher on Jul 28, 2016 4:45:33 GMT
Well, I'm certainly a wise man ..... or should be, at my age.  I think I said wise man, not wise guy! 
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Post by acidohm on Jul 28, 2016 19:51:05 GMT
Well, I'm certainly a wise man ..... or should be, at my age.  I think I said wise man, not wise guy!  Surgical icefisher! !
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Post by blustnmtn on May 1, 2019 2:03:48 GMT
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Post by walnut on May 1, 2019 3:11:13 GMT
I have a relative who retired from NASA, and he grudgingly admitted that he thought that a solar grand minimum might overwhelm C02 warming. He believes that AGW is a real problem, but he also recognizes a likely correlation between solar activity and the climate on earth.
I guess that if his bosses knew about his heretical doubts, they would have him in the stocks.
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Post by blustnmtn on May 1, 2019 10:34:42 GMT
I have a relative who retired from NASA, and he grudgingly admitted that he thought that a solar grand minimum might overwhelm C02 warming. He believes that AGW is a real problem, but he also recognizes a likely correlation between solar activity and the climate on earth. I guess that if his bosses knew about his heretical doubts, they would have him in the stocks. Burn the witches!
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Post by nautonnier on May 1, 2019 12:46:32 GMT
This fits with the use of the mean of max temp and min temp as the ' average temp' then claiming that the average temperature is rising. Well it is - but not because it is getting hotter but because it is not getting as cold at night. But then they proceed to take the max temps and add the increase in 'average temps' to that and start a global panic.
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Post by douglavers on May 2, 2019 6:02:40 GMT
Latest global temp +0.44degC from Dr Spencer's blog.
Would be nice to know where the warmth was mostly located, or is it just an El Nino effect?
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Post by Ratty on May 2, 2019 7:31:19 GMT
Latest global temp +0.44degC from Dr Spencer's blog. Would be nice to know where the warmth was mostly located, or is it just an El Nino effect? If you would like to ask him, don't try the email listed on his blog (Roy@DrRoySpencer.com). It bounces with a permanent error. 
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Post by blustnmtn on May 14, 2019 10:25:05 GMT
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Post by icefisher on May 15, 2019 18:12:53 GMT
Yep it definitely is IMO. The other half may be momentum of the solar grand maximum that we still are not sure is complete. It appears that while El Ninos become more dominant by being influenced by North Pacific Ocean currents broadly known as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, the PDO apparently doesn't affect the timings of ENSO which appear seemingly mostly randomly no matter what phase the PDO is in. Thus the 2015 giant El Nino may have served to extend warming influences of the PDO. The huge amounts of warm water including the blob, left our coastline with one heckuva lot of ocean heat. Its been gradually cooling since 2015. Offshore has been cooling a lot more than inshore where we are influenced by the California countercurrent from the south, warm water pushed north as the regular pattern offshore is a major southward current running under the influence of the Coriolis Effect. But all this is just surface currents we know so little about deeper currents. If I recall correctly we are on track for an Astromet predicted La Nina either next year or the following year. Here in the land where it seems to a large extent the currents are already running before they show up in the mid equatorial pacific there seems to already be some very interesting northern effects occurring in our local waters. Fantastic halibut fishing has been occurring after about a long absence. Basking sharks are showing up haven't seen them in 60 years. Got some weird floating jellies with sails on top (forget their name) sailing into our zone. All these are associated with cold water. Of course think nothing of this folks, multi-decadal oscillations are a new wrinkle in climate science and didn't occur during the LIA and MWP as a global effect according to Pages2K. The global effect is only seen today and only in the most recent warming trend since 1980 has CO2 figured out its supposed be adjusting the temperature record to follow it.
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