If I wanted the USA to succeed.

[Ratty]

Jan 21, 2017 1:35:47 GMT missouriboy said:

Jan 20, 2017 23:28:58 GMT Ratty said:

There are also Aussies who suggest that patriotism is unhealthy. We should all be globalists.

You mean like this 'cow pie'?  

www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/20/soros-says-would-like-to-see-trump-fail-as-president.html

Dementia?

LATER: A massive campaign was waged against former Prime Minister, Tony Abbott. Eventually, left-leaning conservative (Turnbull) replaced Abbott (party room vote). Turnbull has proven almost useless, leading a directionless government. **

Is it likely that Soros, MSM, & others could bring Trump down?

** the US certainly has direction now.

[missouriboy]

Jan 21, 2017 4:35:45 GMT Ratty said:

Jan 21, 2017 1:35:47 GMT missouriboy said:

You mean like this 'cow pie'?  

www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/20/soros-says-would-like-to-see-trump-fail-as-president.html

Dementia?

LATER: A massive campaign was waged against former Prime Minister, Tony Abbott. Eventually, left-leaning conservative (Turnbull) replaced Abbott (party room vote). Turnbull has proven almost useless, leading a directionless government. **

Is it likely that Soros, MSM, & others could bring Trump down?

** the US certainly has direction now.

Perhaps if they all sat on the railroad track singing kumbayah.     That 90-mile-per-hour freight train might turn them into a grease spot which could then become a national historic site.     Of course, that is what Soros pays other people to do.  

[Ratty]

Car accidents and heart attacks not "in" anymore? Trains are good though .....

[missouriboy]

Jan 21, 2017 8:14:07 GMT Ratty said:

Car accidents and heart attacks not "in" anymore? Trains are good though .....

They are SO conventional ....

[Ratty]

The Russian polonium umbrellas are out too, I hear.

Next, there will be a recall of Oddjob's bowler hats.

[missouriboy]

Jan 21, 2017 12:04:48 GMT Ratty said:

The Russian polonium umbrellas are out too, I hear.

Next, there will be a recall of Oddjob's bowler hats.

Film history's best character name ... Oddjob.  English humor at its finest.  

[glennkoks]

If I wanted America to succeed there has to be an end to overbearing bureaucratic red tape and regulation that shackles small business. Case in point from personal experience, I have a commercial oyster boat on the coast of Texas. The state of Texas monitors bacteria levels in our bays and closes the oyster beds as necessary due to algae blooms or heavy rainfall events that brings in to much runoff to our bays. This makes sense as many oysters are eaten on the half shell and we don't want anyone to get sick. During the first week of December we had a heavy rainfall event and quite a few of our bays were closed as a precaution. By law they are closed until they are sampled and deemed safe by the seafood safety division of our state health department. Usually they wait two weeks to let the runoff clear up go out get a sample and open the bays. It kind of sucks but I get it. We don't want anyone eating a contaminated oyster.

Here is where it gets frustrating. After the two week closure I started to call the State health department to see when they were going to sample the bay. One friday they said "all of their lab techs were on holiday for Christmas and they had no one to check the samples if they were to go out and get them". Well that makes for a hard candy Christmas but I've endured pain like this before, it's part of making a living as a Commercial Fisherman.

After Christmas I called them again. "It was too foggy".

After New Years I called them again and "all the lab techs were sick"

Now as I type this rant the bay is still not open. Not because of a bad sample but simply because they have not went out to get a sample. Seven weeks out of a six month season and the boat has grown more oysters on it's hull than it's caught over the last few months.

You can see why Mr. Trump has appealed to much of America.

[walnut]

Jan 21, 2017 4:18:08 GMT sigurdur said:

Jan 21, 2017 2:05:14 GMT walnut said:

Code: Are you surprised that Trump won? You had kindly informed me that Hillary was certain to win (thank you). And you inquired as to what my plans would be since you were certain that she would win.

I guess we were reading different polls. I didn't make any special plans.

I didn't either. I was not surprised to observe President Trump's victory. I talk to a fair number of folks who are out of state. In fact, a long ways out of state. (business contacts). Prior elections, it was about a 50-50 split as to who they would be supporting. This election, I couldn't find ONE Mrs. Clinton supporter in the "Rust Belt Area".

Looking at the election map results by county, it confirmed what I had learned via contacts.

President Trump may be a disaster, however; Mrs. Clinton WOULD have been a disaster.

I wonder which rigged poll Code fell for. I also wonder if he gets his "climate science" information from the same trusted news source haha

[sigurdur]

Polls are like climate claims. There are always error bars.

[nautonnier]

Jan 21, 2017 15:40:19 GMT sigurdur said:

Polls are like climate claims. There are always error bars.

And don't forget that the people that answer the phone are a self-selecting group of those that still use landlines, answer unknown callers, and who do not hang up on a pollster. Of that self selecting group a significant number provide fake answers for fun. How can polls ever be correct?


An anecdote -- a friend sometime ago was stopped outside a supermarket by a woman with a clipboard asking questions the first one of which was 'occupation'. He refused to answer that on the grounds she would not believe him even if he told her. She persisted - so he said "I am an astronaut". "No you're not!" she said. "See!" he said and walked off.

[missouriboy]

Jan 21, 2017 15:40:19 GMT sigurdur said:

Polls are like climate claims. There are always error bars.

That would be a great name for a climate scientist pub ... The Error Bar.

[nonentropic]

And everything happens inside the error bar.

I really like that MB.

[missouriboy]

Jan 21, 2017 18:48:18 GMT nonentropic said:

And everything happens inside the error bar.

I really like that MB.

What kind of standard deviant are you?  Check it out at the Error Bar.  
One could go wild with a name like that.  Deviation Hour.  Outlyer hour.
The 90th Percentile Hooch.  
Anomalous Mary playing nightly between the bars at the error bar.
No negativity above the mean please.

[Ratty]

A few words from a local financial / economics guru:

Valuable lessons for Canberra

I will not cover the normal issues that come from the inauguration speech of Donald Trump because they will be covered by the general media. But I think there are two points that are worth underlining. I have been really encouraged by the team that Trump has put around him. He says that he has told his people to speak their mind in the Senate hearings to ratify their appointments, even though their opinion might be different to those of the President. In other words, he has not chosen “yes” men and women. All too often political leaders bring around them those that have similar opinions and the process can be dangerously sterile in a fast-moving world.

A great many of Trump’s people do not have direct political experience, so they will need to try to adapt their business and other knowledge to the political environment. It will not be easy. But it gives the US a chance to relook at all the things that are usually never challenged in the political process. The US desperately needs that examination. But if there is one country that needs such an examination even more than the US, it is Australia where many of our politicians don’t seem to have any idea of how to think outside the square.

[Ratty]

Jan 21, 2017 15:40:19 GMT sigurdur said:

Polls are like climate claims. There are always error bars.

Some pollsters should be behind them.