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Post by nautonnier on Mar 21, 2019 12:30:54 GMT
What are real estate values like on Pikes Peak?    Sky high. Hell of a view though. and you'll need your coat |
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 10, 2019 12:30:41 GMT
.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/ancient-greece-archaeology-keros-aegean-sea-bronze-age-dhaskalio-bible-pyramids-crete-milos-a8997666.html?amp#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 10, 2019 18:21:28 GMT
.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/ancient-greece-archaeology-keros-aegean-sea-bronze-age-dhaskalio-bible-pyramids-crete-milos-a8997666.html?amp#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s Unless of course the sea level was lower when the complex was built. It is even possible that the marble was schlepped up the hill as the sea level rose at the 8Kyr ago floods from Lake Agassiz |
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 11, 2019 15:53:33 GMT
.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/ancient-greece-archaeology-keros-aegean-sea-bronze-age-dhaskalio-bible-pyramids-crete-milos-a8997666.html?amp#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s Unless of course the sea level was lower when the complex was built. It is even possible that the marble was schlepped up the hill as the sea level rose at the 8Kyr ago floods from Lake Agassiz Yes, quite possible. I note that the dating on this complex is in the same general time frame as the published approximate dates for the placement of the large center stones at Stonehenge (~4500 ybp), with the entire monument timeframe covering the period ~5500 to ~4200 ybp. The GISP2 climate reconstruction shows the 5300-3700 period as a great warming into the Minoan, beginning with a very cold event around 5300 thought to be associated with a serious population decline in the British Isles, and ending in perhaps the warmest period of the last 6000 years, at least in NW Europe. It also coincides with dates derived for the Celtic expansion out of the steppe into north central Europe and the Isles. |
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 19, 2019 16:50:45 GMT
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Post by walnut on Jul 19, 2019 17:05:50 GMT
That place was already several thousands of years old by the time the Jews arrived at Jericho. Jericho was already very ancient by that point as well. |
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Post by acidohm on Jul 19, 2019 18:44:33 GMT
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Post by walnut on Jul 19, 2019 20:42:10 GMT
Those people were living at near the tail end of the Pleistocene. They would have seen some strange things. I wonder if 'the great flood' was a massive glacial moraine flood.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 19, 2019 21:26:51 GMT
From the Forbidden Archaeology book I previously quoted... "After the discovery of the implements, geologists dated the Ulalinka site at 40,000 years. This dating poses no particular problems for modern ideas about human evolution. The tools could have been made by anatomically modern Homo sapiens, or perhaps by some late survivals of a Neanderthal population in Siberia. But subsequent studies put the Ulalinka site in the late Middle Pleistocene, giving ages that range from 150,000 to 400,000 years (Okladinov and Ragozin 1984, pp. 5–6). Then, in 1977, Okladinov and Ragozin conducted new excavations and determined that the implement-bearing stratum was much older than scientists previously thought. They stated: “the pebble tools belong to the middle part of the Kochkov horizon, the Podpusk-Lebiazh’e layers, formed roughly 2.5 million to 1.5 million years ago. This conclusion was confirmed by thermoluminescent analysis done by A. I. Shliukov, Director of the Geochronology Group of the Faculty of Geography of the Moscow State University. . . . it was found that the cultural layer with the Ulalinka pebble tools was more than 1.5 million years old”
Cremo, Michael. Forbidden Archaeology (Kindle Locations 4636-4644). Torchlight Publishing Inc. Kindle Edition. " The accepted out of Africa ideas require a specific timeline - which is not apparent from some artifacts found, by a significant amount. |
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Post by walnut on Jul 19, 2019 22:07:24 GMT
I take everything science has to say about it with a lot of salt. From the Forbidden Archaeology book I previously quoted... "After the discovery of the implements, geologists dated the Ulalinka site at 40,000 years. This dating poses no particular problems for modern ideas about human evolution. The tools could have been made by anatomically modern Homo sapiens, or perhaps by some late survivals of a Neanderthal population in Siberia. But subsequent studies put the Ulalinka site in the late Middle Pleistocene, giving ages that range from 150,000 to 400,000 years (Okladinov and Ragozin 1984, pp. 5–6). Then, in 1977, Okladinov and Ragozin conducted new excavations and determined that the implement-bearing stratum was much older than scientists previously thought. They stated: “the pebble tools belong to the middle part of the Kochkov horizon, the Podpusk-Lebiazh’e layers, formed roughly 2.5 million to 1.5 million years ago. This conclusion was confirmed by thermoluminescent analysis done by A. I. Shliukov, Director of the Geochronology Group of the Faculty of Geography of the Moscow State University. . . . it was found that the cultural layer with the Ulalinka pebble tools was more than 1.5 million years old”
Cremo, Michael. Forbidden Archaeology (Kindle Locations 4636-4644). Torchlight Publishing Inc. Kindle Edition. " The accepted out of Africa ideas require a specific timeline - which is not apparent from some artifacts found, by a significant amount. |
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Post by acidohm on Jul 19, 2019 22:22:36 GMT
I take everything science has to say about it with a lot of salt. From the Forbidden Archaeology book I previously quoted... "After the discovery of the implements, geologists dated the Ulalinka site at 40,000 years. This dating poses no particular problems for modern ideas about human evolution. The tools could have been made by anatomically modern Homo sapiens, or perhaps by some late survivals of a Neanderthal population in Siberia. But subsequent studies put the Ulalinka site in the late Middle Pleistocene, giving ages that range from 150,000 to 400,000 years (Okladinov and Ragozin 1984, pp. 5–6). Then, in 1977, Okladinov and Ragozin conducted new excavations and determined that the implement-bearing stratum was much older than scientists previously thought. They stated: “the pebble tools belong to the middle part of the Kochkov horizon, the Podpusk-Lebiazh’e layers, formed roughly 2.5 million to 1.5 million years ago. This conclusion was confirmed by thermoluminescent analysis done by A. I. Shliukov, Director of the Geochronology Group of the Faculty of Geography of the Moscow State University. . . . it was found that the cultural layer with the Ulalinka pebble tools was more than 1.5 million years old”
Cremo, Michael. Forbidden Archaeology (Kindle Locations 4636-4644). Torchlight Publishing Inc. Kindle Edition. " The accepted out of Africa ideas require a specific timeline - which is not apparent from some artifacts found, by a significant amount. You know, when people look beyond our shores to where would have been land prior to a "great flood" there are "formations" with straight edges. Nature doesnt do straight edges. Every culture we know has a flood myth... Tbh i gave up looking into this stuff as fascinating and intriguing as it is. I think we can only hypothesis on what happened back then. There are no texts, little funding for research, too many "its aliens" types. Something went on alot longer ago and with a far better technology then we credit for. (Im not talking propulsion and silicone valley stuff, but maths, astronomy, global circumnavigation) Sadly, a foot note to history now... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonaguni_Monumentwww.livescience.com/51848-monolith-sicilian-channel.htmlchiefio.wordpress.com/2018/05/06/9500-year-old-city-underwater-off-indian-coast/ |
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Post by acidohm on Jul 19, 2019 22:36:17 GMT
Those people were living at near the tail end of the Pleistocene. They would have seen some strange things. I wonder if 'the great flood' was a massive glacial moraine flood. I know india has geological signs that a massive body of water moved over it, similar in structure to ripples on a sandy river bed.....cant find a suitable link atm... |
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Post by walnut on Jul 19, 2019 22:37:17 GMT
You would have to really open your mind to read very much of this, but it was written by supposedly the man with the highest IQ ever  His insights into prehistory, and why things are the way they are. It's pretty interesting. For whatever it's worth www.sidis.net/TSContents.htmI take everything science has to say about it with a lot of salt. You know, when people look beyond our shores to where would have been land prior to a "great flood" there are "formations" with straight edges. Nature doesnt do straight edges. Every culture we know has a flood myth... Tbh i gave up looking into this stuff as fascinating and intriguing as it is. I think we can only hypothesis on what happened back then. There are no texts, little funding for research, too many "its aliens" types. Something went on alot longer ago and with a far better technology then we credit for. (Im not talking propulsion and silicone valley stuff, but maths, astronomy, global circumnavigation) Sadly, a foot note to history now... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonaguni_Monumentwww.livescience.com/51848-monolith-sicilian-channel.htmlchiefio.wordpress.com/2018/05/06/9500-year-old-city-underwater-off-indian-coast/ |
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 19, 2019 23:53:33 GMT
You would have to really open your mind to read very much of this, but it was written by supposedly the man with the highest IQ ever His insights into prehistory, and why things are the way they are. It's pretty interesting. For whatever it's worth www.sidis.net/TSContents.htmDon't you love the mantra of "the science is settled"? |
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Post by Ratty on Jul 20, 2019 4:29:19 GMT
I take everything science has to say about it with a lot of salt. [ Snip ] I'm sure you're right, Walnut. The pinch measure had to be re-calibrated when climate science arrived. |
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