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Post by Ratty on Nov 2, 2019 13:18:56 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 2, 2019 17:16:22 GMT
Ratty ... you again get the scientific literature research award for Fall 2019.
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Post by Ratty on Nov 2, 2019 23:28:29 GMT
Ratty ... you again get the scientific literature research award for Fall 2019. Three pounds of wet cement? I'll put it towards building my sea wall.
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 2, 2019 23:46:42 GMT
Ratty ... you again get the scientific literature research award for Fall 2019. Three pounds of wet cement? I'll put it towards building my sea wall. Don't forget the iceberg proofing.
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Post by nautonnier on Nov 9, 2019 16:29:32 GMT
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Post by duwayne on Nov 9, 2019 17:44:16 GMT
The chart below shows that the cumulative spotless days prior to a cycle peak gives an indication of the size of the peak.  So far during the Cycle 24/25 transition there have been 581 spotless days. If perchance we are halfway through the transition, we could see 1162 spotless days. The greatest number of cumulative spotless days for any cycle back to 1830 is 1128. This is another indicator that Cycle 25 may be weak.
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 9, 2019 20:25:29 GMT
The chart below shows that the cumulative spotless days prior to a cycle peak gives an indication of the size of the peak.  So far during the Cycle 24/25 transition there have been 581 spotless days. If perchance we are halfway through the transition, we could see 1162 spotless days. The greatest number of cumulative spotless days for any cycle back to 1830 is 1128. This is another indicator that Cycle 25 may be weak. Nice chart. It will take about 24 essentially spotless months to get to that 1162 value. So October-December, 2021 ... A cycle 24 length equal to SC23 would end about April 2021.
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Post by nonentropic on Nov 9, 2019 21:29:48 GMT
The test is underway regardless how low it gets. It would be much better if the results are very definitive in as much as even Joe B who see's us being on a higher temperature plane is challenged.
Ultimately the food shortage issues sometimes discussed here is unlikely due to the elevated CO2 and the affect on plant growth, and trade more generally. There will be winners and losers, sorry Sig if this impacts. Just a fall of .3C over the next 2 years would be sufficiently definitive for me, but I fear that .6C fall would be needed to turn heads more generally that the climate has at least a couple material drivers.
let 25 be a good one!
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 10, 2019 4:01:20 GMT
The test is underway regardless how low it gets. It would be much better if the results are very definitive in as much as even Joe B who see's us being on a higher temperature plane is challenged. Ultimately the food shortage issues sometimes discussed here is unlikely due to the elevated CO2 and the affect on plant growth, and trade more generally. There will be winners and losers, sorry Sig if this impacts. Just a fall of .3C over the next 2 years would be sufficiently definitive for me, but I fear that .6C fall would be needed to turn heads more generally that the climate has at least a couple material drivers. let 25 be a good one! The great global hot tub has been on higher heat for a few decades. Big Joe believes that water vapor is keeping Arctic temps up. Unless geothermal plays a significant role in ocean heating, can't help but believe that lower solar activity (particularly UV) will mean less energy input to the oceans. Tropical oceans drive the climate. They may take some time to bleed off (heat wise) but bleed they will. UAH lower troposphere temperatures follow ENSO (chart 1). ENSO magnitudes (the balance between magnitudes of Nino and Nina) follows solar cycles (chart 2). If 25 is another low cycle, I think -0.6 C will be optimistic. I think I'm on record for -1.5 C (over the longer term)... fully hoping to be wrong. But let the test proceed. I see witches in flames.  
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Post by acidohm on Nov 10, 2019 7:31:13 GMT
The test is underway regardless how low it gets. It would be much better if the results are very definitive in as much as even Joe B who see's us being on a higher temperature plane is challenged. Ultimately the food shortage issues sometimes discussed here is unlikely due to the elevated CO2 and the affect on plant growth, and trade more generally. There will be winners and losers, sorry Sig if this impacts. Just a fall of .3C over the next 2 years would be sufficiently definitive for me, but I fear that .6C fall would be needed to turn heads more generally that the climate has at least a couple material drivers. let 25 be a good one! The great global hot tub has been on higher heat for a few decades. Big Joe believes that water vapor is keeping Arctic temps up. Unless geothermal plays a significant role in ocean heating, can't help but believe that lower solar activity (particularly UV) will mean less energy input to the oceans. Tropical oceans drive the climate. They may take some time to bleed off (heat wise) but bleed they will. UAH lower troposphere temperatures follow ENSO (chart 1). ENSO magnitudes (the balance between magnitudes of Nino and Nina) follows solar cycles (chart 2). If 25 is another low cycle, I think -0.6 C will be optimistic. I think I'm on record for -1.5 C (over the longer term)... fully hoping to be wrong. But let the test proceed. I see witches in flames.   Great Analysis 👍👍 shared 😊
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 13, 2019 20:45:53 GMT
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Post by jcsok on Nov 13, 2019 22:49:40 GMT
Mizzou , where's the "don't like" key on the computer for the above post?
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 14, 2019 0:01:57 GMT
Mizzou , where's the "don't like" key on the computer for the above post? I don't like it either ... although it may be interesting to see ultra-warmists going into convulsions. May have to join Naut in Florida.
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Post by nonentropic on Nov 14, 2019 3:56:52 GMT
They actually can't say the word "lower".
Egg on face me thinks to come.
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Post by Ratty on Nov 14, 2019 13:37:20 GMT
Mizzou , where's the "don't like" key on the computer for the above post? I don't like it either ... although it may be interesting to see ultra-warmists going into convulsions. May have to join Naut in Florida. Where the iguanas freeze fall from the trees? 
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