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Post by sigurdur on Mar 3, 2020 11:02:11 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 3, 2020 16:24:43 GMT
Missouriboy, ENSO data v solar cycle interesting Where is this from? It's just the ENSO-MEI monthly time series I have accumulated over the last 5+ years, together with the Solar indices data ... normalized using the standard technique (monthly or increment-specific value minus time series mean divided by the time series standard deviation). www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/enso/mei/ |
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 3, 2020 16:43:46 GMT
Somebody didn't get the memo.  Deplorable rebels. |
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Post by hrizzo on Mar 4, 2020 7:48:33 GMT
missouriboy
Greta´s acolytes, when confronted with reality, always ask the same question just to digress: "where did you get the data?
So,it would be great to have in the image the source of data... and leave to them the task to study it and debate properly or just shut up.
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Post by Ratty on Mar 4, 2020 12:59:32 GMT
missouriboy Greta´s acolytes, when confronted with reality, always ask the same question just to digress: "where did you get the data? So,it would be great to have in the image the source of data... and leave to them the task to study it and debate properly or just shut up. You give the acolytes far too much credit, Hrizzo.  Good to hear from you again. |
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 4, 2020 15:59:28 GMT
missouriboy Greta´s acolytes, when confronted with reality, always ask the same question just to digress: "where did you get the data? So,it would be great to have in the image the source of data... and leave to them the task to study it and debate properly or just shut up. You are absolutely right Hrizzo. And if this were an academic enterprise, it would be theoretically required ... although sometimes the recipe is very, very vague. Mannkind have different rules. Only one disagreement ... I doubt they will shut up. Nor will they put up anything that has been rigorously tested. Good to see you back and hope you are in good health. |
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 4, 2020 16:39:27 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 4, 2020 21:04:37 GMT
That fails in the first line: "My proposal resists the flawed reasoning of the radical Left while embracing market-based solutions to reduce carbon emissions."So what it means is it is time for conservatives to out virtue signal the left. Carbon emissions  Que?? There are more and more papers coming out of the woodwork that present the argument often based on observational evidence, that CO2 cools the atmosphere (leads to more IR leaving for space) and therefore cannot be a source of 'warming' for the Earth system. Also that the hydrologic cycle is also a cooling mechanism. Therefore, the sign is wrong on all the arguments for global warming. |
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Post by hrizzo on Mar 5, 2020 9:26:44 GMT
Thank you, Ratty and missouriboy. I am always here (although my health diminishes as my age grows); it is just that I read and listen a lot, specially to people that know much more than I. I am very active in Twitter and GAB, nevertheless. Times change, climate changes, but as the Good Doctor used to say, the fight is always the same. ![]()  |
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Post by Ratty on Mar 5, 2020 10:27:52 GMT
Thank you, Ratty and missouriboy. I am always here (although my health diminishes as my age grows); it is just that I read and listen a lot, specially to people that know much more than I. I am very active in Twitter and GAB, nevertheless. Times change, climate changes, but as the Good Doctor used to say, the fight is always the same. ![]() Pinched Isaac. Thanks Hrizzo. |
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 5, 2020 15:57:12 GMT
Nightfall
Asimov Novelette And Novel "Nightfall" is a 1941 science fiction novelette by American writer Isaac Asimov about the coming of darkness to the people of a planet ordinarily illuminated by sunlight at all times. It was adapted into a novel with Robert Silverberg in 1990.Wikipedia A classic short story of societal mass panic. sites.uni.edu/morgans/astro/course/nightfall.pdf
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 20, 2020 10:05:01 GMT
All these places are evocative names from my past  |
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Post by nonentropic on Mar 20, 2020 19:34:02 GMT
Some may remember the 9 11 event when all planes were removed from the sky over a huge portion of the world for a number of days. It was claimed that a weather impact was detected in the clouds cover and a load of similarly impacted events.
Since then we have seen at least a doubling of air travel that is up until about now and now it looks to me like a 85% drop and likely to go on for a further 30 days.
this could settle a big question relating to clouds and trails, did't want to say that word but that is the purported issue.
Any thoughts.
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 20, 2020 20:21:34 GMT
Some may remember the 9 11 event when all planes were removed from the sky over a huge portion of the world for a number of days. It was claimed that a weather impact was detected in the clouds cover and a load of similarly impacted events. Since then we have seen at least a doubling of air travel that is up until about now and now it looks to me like a 85% drop and likely to go on for a further 30 days. this could settle a big question relating to clouds and trails, did't want to say that word but that is the purported issue. Any thoughts. It may settle some. Although at the weekend I was out and took this picture:  That is facing South with the Atlantic to the left in Eastern Florida. The airspace over the Atlantic off the coast is part of the West Atlantic Route System (WATRS) with traffic coast crawling down past Miami toward the Caribbean and South America. You can see that it is not exactly quiet although the traffic is reduced. All those contrails are persistent and widening into cirrus. Persistent contrails tell you that the air is humid at that level. 9/11 the East Coast was under a large dome of high pressure (all the pictures of the day show the clear sky) Air was being drawn down from Canada and was cool - a typical pre-fall day. As there was low humidity there were no contrails anyway. Here is a picture of the beach area taken a few months earlier a mile or so further South but looking East South East at a similar time - note there are no contrails but the aircraft will be there just you cannot see them as the air is not so humid.  And traffic has not (yet) reduced as much as you would think - this is captured as I type  IF things go on for a long time and traffic really dials back some metrics may show it but we may think that we are big but really compared to the atmosphere what we do is somewhat puny |
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 20, 2020 20:52:16 GMT
The CON in contrails may be there for a reason.  |
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Deplorable rebels.
Que??
