|
Post by kiwistonewall on Jan 31, 2009 9:21:33 GMT
Bizarre month: For the Scoresby station, Jan 2009 had the coldest minimum ever recorded, and the highest minimum ever recorded.
The Mean minimum for Jan. was 1.4C colder than the 1971-2000 norm, in spite of the heat wave in the last few days of the month.
So for most of the month, we had very cool evenings and daytimes way cooler than average, followed by one of the warmest heatwaves recorded. (The others also being at solar minimum!)
Which proves one man's freeze is another man's heatwave. ;D
|
|
|
Post by itsonlysteam on Feb 1, 2009 6:47:12 GMT
Doesn't Australia (or parts of it) get warmer when the PDO goes cold with back to back La Nina's? I can't remember but there is some discussion I think on Warwick's site or ... On the other hand, on average, La Nina's bring cooling ... but drought to North Central California ... I should look it all up again but I'm working on something else
|
|
|
Post by poitsplace on Feb 1, 2009 21:32:57 GMT
Doesn't Australia (or parts of it) get warmer when the PDO goes cold with back to back La Nina's? I can't remember but there is some discussion I think on Warwick's site or ... On the other hand, on average, La Nina's bring cooling ... but drought to North Central California ... I should look it all up again but I'm working on something else Yeah, it causes a lot of changes in weather...and just like the persistent El Ninos that causes MOST of the weather attributed to global warming...not because it's warmer but because of the affects of a different configuration of the currents. My part of the US is colder that the rest of the country during El Ninos and warmer than the rest of the country during La Ninas (granted, repeated La Ninas eventually cool off the planet so much that it's still colder).
|
|
|
Post by Ratty on Feb 1, 2009 22:13:53 GMT
There is a lot of publicity at the moment about the heatwave in Southern Australia.
Does anyone have reliable figures on what is happenng in the rest of the Southern Hemisphere?
|
|
|
Post by kiwistonewall on Feb 1, 2009 22:19:33 GMT
Well, it is now mid summer. February is the hottest month. BOM is the source for Australia. www.bom.gov.au/climate/NIWA for New Zealand. www.niwa.cri.nz/nccThe data should be honest if their conclusions are not always. I've not looked at Africa, South America or the Antarctic much.
|
|
|
Post by crakar24 on Feb 2, 2009 0:22:59 GMT
Here in SA we equalled the 1908 record at 5:07pm last night with 40.6C, that makes it 6 days in a row of 40+ temps. Today is forecast to be 39C so with a bit of luck i will be a new record holder by tonight.
We broke the highest o/night temp this year with 33C i think.
We average 6 days above 40 and this Jan we had 7
The hottest day still stands at 46.3 set back in 1939
As far "other" records being broken in the SH, New Zealand beat Australia in the cricket, the first time since 1852 (or something like that).
For those not from around here dont read to much into loss of power etc. For example Adelaide lost power because a town in Tasmania reached 33C, i do not have enough characters left to explain why just accept it like we do.
My co workers (many have never left the state of SA) say it has been hot, i simply smile and tell them "you dont know what hot is". For those wishing to experience HOT weather live in Darwin in October and November to get an appreciation.
For those references to Rome burning explain me this, if 2009 temps are caused by AGW then why was it so hot in 1908? Dont worry i do not expect a plausible answer.
Cheers
|
|
|
Post by kiwistonewall on Feb 2, 2009 0:45:15 GMT
Who cares about the weather!
New Zealand whitewash Australia 3–0 in Chappell–Hadlee ODI series, 2007
Of 108 ODI matches between the two countries, Australia has won 75 and New Zealand 30 (with three 'no-results'). (And if it wasn't for that underarm bowl, if would have likely been 74/31)
;D Sorry to all those outside NZ & Australia - this is one of those Aussie-Kiwi things.
And yes, I am a cricket tragic, and watched the game last night that finished about midnight Melbourne time - Where we beat the Ozzies with a 4 off the last ball of the last over.
Victory by the Kiwis over Australia is rare, so it is especially sweet... ;D
|
|
|
Post by crakar24 on Feb 2, 2009 1:05:32 GMT
Who cares about the weather! New Zealand whitewash Australia 3–0 in Chappell–Hadlee ODI series, 2007 Of 108 ODI matches between the two countries, Australia has won 75 and New Zealand 30 (with three 'no-results'). (And if it wasn't for that underarm bowl, if would have likely been 74/31) ;D Sorry to all those outside NZ & Australia - this is one of those Aussie-Kiwi things. And yes, I am a cricket tragic, and watched the game last night that finished about midnight Melbourne time - Where we beat the Ozzies with a 4 off the last ball of the last over. Victory by the Kiwis over Australia is rare, so it is especially sweet... ;D May i remind you that up untill then it was legal to bowl underarm, the fact that Chappell knew this did not surprise me (i still mute the TV when he commentates).
|
|
|
Post by Acolyte on Feb 2, 2009 11:14:38 GMT
The BoM has lost it's marbles...
For Melbourne Temps...
-----------Min----Max Mon - jan 26 - 14.4 - 25.5 Tues - jan 27 - 16.6 - 36.4 Wed - jan 28 - 18.8 - 43.4 Thu -- jan 29 - 25.7 - 44.3 Fri --- jan 30 - 25.7 - 45.1 Sat -- jan 31 - 22.5 - 30.5
So where are those days when we pushed the record of 30º+ for night time temps? (Wednesday & Thursday)
Tuesday was predicted at max 41 & got to 43, yet here it is at 36.4 - where precisely one wonders - obviously not where they have railway lines.
What's with those hot nights being reported at 14.4, 16.6 & 18.8? Someone's taking the piss at BoM.
|
|
|
Post by kiwistonewall on Feb 2, 2009 11:32:31 GMT
crakar24
No, it wasn't "legal". It simply hadn't be legislated against, since no decent person would think about it. It was never cricket! ;D
There is such a thing as unwritten law! ;D
(and the heatwave has simply been the 450,000 kiwis living in Australia fuming about the cricket - all those raised temperatures) (Had to get this on topic!)
|
|
|
Post by Acolyte on Feb 2, 2009 11:37:15 GMT
It was the act of a prick, a black mark on the Aussie team & totally against the spirit of cricket. Even his brother didn't want to do it & showed his disgust after being ordered to do it. Ruined a bloody good game.
Cooled the Aussie - Kiwi relationship climate for years, maybe decades. When applying a 5 year smoothing it doesn't look too bad but the Poms claim the sudden plunge in only one year was just weather.
|
|
|
Post by crakar24 on Feb 3, 2009 2:44:06 GMT
crakar24 No, it wasn't "legal". It simply hadn't be legislated against, since no decent person would think about it. It was never cricket! ;D There is such a thing as unwritten law! ;D (and the heatwave has simply been the 450,000 kiwis living in Australia fuming about the cricket - all those raised temperatures) (Had to get this on topic!) Ian was an idiot, Greg was a gentleman and Trevor never recovered, last seen selling life insurance to the terminally ill who are suffering through the heatwave. Going on your theory of 450,000 Kiwis then i expect this heatwave to continue due to Haddins attempted stumping ended in the Kiwi batsman being out bowled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Australia is suffering due to the heat wave from all the C02 in NZ and SAF, Ponting is suffering heat exhuastion while Daniel (better than Hadlee) Vettori is cool as a cucumber. I expect the summer heatwave to continue with most Australian players suffering heat stroke.
|
|
|
Post by Ratty on Feb 3, 2009 3:29:32 GMT
In order to reduce the carbon footprint (does that get this back on topic?), no future cricket matches will be played under lights.
Ok, ok. I know that has not been announced but ........ it certainly fits the bill when considering carbon "pollution" reduction, doesn't it.
(I hope that Climate Minister, Penny Wong is not reading this.)
|
|
|
Post by magellan on Feb 3, 2009 3:52:28 GMT
Big headlines similar to that in Los Angeles, California. "Record heat" blah blah blah. Problem: climate.jpl.nasa.gov/files/LAHeatWaves-JournalArticle.pdfDespite evidence of such issues with near surface station records, Warmologists still insist UHI and micrositing are accounted for. Such nonsense. I believe below is a picture of a station in Australia. I hope this isn't typical.
|
|
|
Post by kiwistonewall on Feb 4, 2009 5:46:34 GMT
Official Press Release by Australian weather Bureau: So, we've not had much warming in 101 years! ;D And the Urban Heat Island effect is greatest in a heat wave, so if that was subtracted, it was positively freezing - relatively speaking. Melbourne's most sustained heatwave occurred in January 1908 when temperatures reached 39.9 (15th January), 42.8 (16th), 44.2 (17th), 40.0 (18th), 41.1 (19th) and 42.7 (20th). www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/vic/20090130a.shtml
|
|