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Post by frankthetank on Mar 15, 2009 4:37:46 GMT
Thoughts?
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Post by trbixler on Mar 15, 2009 13:51:46 GMT
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Post by bender on Mar 15, 2009 14:09:04 GMT
Any correlation with sunspot activity? ------------------------------------------------- Global and Northern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclone Activity [still] lowest in 30-years Tropical cyclone (TC) activity worldwide has completely and utterly collapsed during the past 2 to 3 years with TC energy levels sinking to levels not seen since the late 1970s. This should not be a surprise to scientists since the natural variability in climate dominates any detectable or perceived global warming impact when it comes to measuring yearly integrated tropical cyclone activity. With the continuation (persistence) of colder Pacific tropical sea-surface temperatures associated with the effects of La Nina, the upcoming 2009 Atlantic hurricane season should be above average, as we saw in 2008. Nevertheless, since the Atlantic only makes up 10-15% of overall global TC activity each year (climatological average during the past 30 years), continued Northern Hemispheric and global TC inactivity as a whole likely will continue. article continued at: www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/
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Post by socold on Mar 15, 2009 14:19:28 GMT
That map is january and february combined, not just january.
It could just be chance that the driest start falls now. A timeseries of jan-feb US precipitation over time might give more info.
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 15, 2009 15:37:41 GMT
Any correlation with sunspot activity? ------------------------------------------------- Global and Northern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclone Activity [still] lowest in 30-years Tropical cyclone (TC) activity worldwide has completely and utterly collapsed during the past 2 to 3 years with TC energy levels sinking to levels not seen since the late 1970s. This should not be a surprise to scientists since the natural variability in climate dominates any detectable or perceived global warming impact when it comes to measuring yearly integrated tropical cyclone activity. With the continuation (persistence) of colder Pacific tropical sea-surface temperatures associated with the effects of La Nina, the upcoming 2009 Atlantic hurricane season should be above average, as we saw in 2008. Nevertheless, since the Atlantic only makes up 10-15% of overall global TC activity each year (climatological average during the past 30 years), continued Northern Hemispheric and global TC inactivity as a whole likely will continue. article continued at: www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/That can't be true ! Al Gore told Congress only a month ago that we were facing far more and more severe storms! A climate catastrophe that only following Hansen's advice immediately could possibly stop.
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 15, 2009 17:46:57 GMT
The two month average seems to be in error as the high plains have received snowfall amounts that have broken records.
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Post by solartrack on Mar 15, 2009 21:59:10 GMT
A few single digits but not enough.
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Post by icefisher on Mar 15, 2009 23:34:40 GMT
The two month average seems to be in error as the high plains have received snowfall amounts that have broken records. This from the NOAA site: "January-February 2009 was the driest, first two month-period in the 1895-2009 record for the contiguous United States. Precipitation across the nation averaged 2.69 inches for January-February. " "Precipitation across the contiguous United States in February averaged 1.40 inches, which is 0.62 inch below the 1901-2000 average and tied with February 1954 as the eighth driest February on record. " .
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Post by tobyglyn on Mar 15, 2009 23:49:41 GMT
That can't be true ! Al Gore told Congress only a month ago that we were facing far more and more severe storms! A climate catastrophe that only following Hansen's advice immediately could possibly stop. Indeed, researchers using advanced climate models predict AGW will cause an increase in the occurrence of severe storms and, as is the case with all AGW effects, there will be no upside! "Research Meteorologists found that the temperature changes brought on by global warming are significant enough to cause an increase in the occurrence of severe storms. Severe storms are those that cause flooding, have damaging winds, hail and could cause tornados. Their study revealed that by the end of this century, the number of days that favor severe storms could more than double certain locations, such as Atlanta and New York. Researchers also found that this increase would occur during typical stormy seasons and not during dry seasons when it may be beneficial." www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2009/0109-global_warming_causes_severe_storms.htm
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Post by solartrack on Mar 16, 2009 1:51:53 GMT
The two month average seems to be in error as the high plains have received snowfall amounts that have broken records. This from the NOAA site: "January-February 2009 was the driest, first two month-period in the 1895-2009 record for the contiguous United States. Precipitation across the nation averaged 2.69 inches for January-February. " "Precipitation across the contiguous United States in February averaged 1.40 inches, which is 0.62 inch below the 1901-2000 average and tied with February 1954 as the eighth driest February on record. " . Polar deserts...tropical rain forests.
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Post by heatsink on Mar 19, 2009 0:13:00 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 19, 2009 1:36:27 GMT
I am still not sure of the mythology of the Jan/Feb being so dry. There are states that I am sure received average to above average precip, example, NE states, snowfall records, yet their colors are showing dry?
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 22, 2009 18:03:12 GMT
That can't be true ! Al Gore told Congress only a month ago that we were facing far more and more severe storms! A climate catastrophe that only following Hansen's advice immediately could possibly stop. Indeed, researchers using advanced climate models predict AGW will cause an increase in the occurrence of severe storms and, as is the case with all AGW effects, there will be no upside! "Research Meteorologists found that the temperature changes brought on by global warming are significant enough to cause an increase in the occurrence of severe storms. Severe storms are those that cause flooding, have damaging winds, hail and could cause tornados. Their study revealed that by the end of this century, the number of days that favor severe storms could more than double certain locations, such as Atlanta and New York. Researchers also found that this increase would occur during typical stormy seasons and not during dry seasons when it may be beneficial." www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2009/0109-global_warming_causes_severe_storms.htmMy point was that the Gore/Hansen team were yet again re-hyping AGW - its now become a climate catastrophe - one wonders what is next - a climate apocalypse perhaps? And yes I have seen all the alarmist literature living near the coast in a 'hurricane area' and working with meteorologists one gets to be quite involved and I have now seen several hurricanes up close and personal so I am not being glib about things. The problem is even with enhanced reporting of storms including naming those that form and die in mid-ocean away from shipping lanes and were only ever seen by satellite - the hurricane seasons are not getting worse - yes we had _another_ Galveston hurricane - there was one before that was almost identical close to 100 years previously that killed a lot more people. Yes, a hurricane hit New Orleans again - these are not rare - as you may know one of the standard drinks in bars there is called 'a hurricane'. In the worst stages of Katrina the old quarters of New Orleans did not flood in the old days people chose where to build far more carefully. The reason for the extra cost of these hurricanes is more people living near the coasts and in flimsy buildings thanks to air conditioning. The argument that hurricanes will continue to increase in intensity and destroy everything within 50 miles of coastlines etc etc will lose steam in any case as it is based on the SST increasing - and they are not - indeed they appear to have been cooling for a few years.
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Post by tobyglyn on Mar 22, 2009 23:43:53 GMT
Actually, I'm completely with you on all of that nautonnier.
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Post by socold on Mar 23, 2009 19:51:55 GMT
climageddon
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